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I am well aware that some naval personnel were issued  OD uniforms under certain circumstances, and that the Navy wore a version of the M-1 helmet. They also often stenciled their OD uniform blouses and jackets with USN as well. The standard US Navy utility jacket was the same OD color as that used by the Army or Marines . However, the fact remains that the USN DID use shipboard personnel for infantry and artillery, when necessary, and it was not guaranteed that they were always issued ODs.

I still believe that if a naval base were attacked, that any naval infantry would have had a good chance of being in the normal naval uniform of the day.

Awesome footage.  I think Scots work will pay huge dividends for realistic ammo damage.

Dated early 1930s. In a more pertinent time period, certainly naval personnel were temporarily onshore at Guadalcanal during the initial landing, and left there when the invasion group abruptly pulled out. From photographs, they were commonly dressed in naval blue fatigues. They did logistics work, and manned some AA guns. They didn't go into the jungle and fight Japanese infantry. If they had, it would have been insane for them to be wearing blue (or white!) instead of green. Some things are obvious. Here are the mid- to late-war US Navy uniform pieces that were provided to naval units that were intended to operate in the vicinity of ground combat: http://www.usww2uniforms.com/USN_N3_Utility_Trousers.html http://www.usww2uniforms.com/USN_N3_Utility_Shirt.html Other combat gear if needed would be the same as used by Marines, or obtained from the Army if need be. The N-3 helmet was basically the M-1 Army helmet. Often shore parties would have "USN" stencilled across the front of the helmet in a faintly contrasting lighter green so that the branch of the wearer could be distinguished from a close distance.  

Ya, my hidden fear too - many players I think will try axis first for a while; could be wrong - but I think history has shown axis generally always has more pop. Now, a little more pop is fine imo - don't have to be 50-50.  And, is good if each side get some over pop. But, my fear is axis will be very op for much of the time, and that will will really mess up the game.   One fun idea - first map;  everyone with 6 months or less sub -goes axis;  everyone over 6 months go allied   (Ya, i know - really tick off some axis only squads - but it would be fun to see the hoards attacking the few) - HEY, maybe an intermission idea for first intermission after STEAM?  

No Axis HC on again.  Getting rid of flags should be the absolute 100% priority. 

Yep, a favourite for me is watching the enemy fire at you, where their round appears to detonate on the tree directly in front of them, yet it's immediately followed by the sound of the round hitting your hull.

As we've all experienced multiple times, the engine bug or firebug, where the player is not firing but to others, is running around town firing continuously from his/her lmg/smg/flak30/ca mle 25 aa etc etc. As someone who has had to deal with people continuously firing 20mm guns due to this bug, it can be headache inducing. You try to tell the greentag that they have a firebug but they don't pick up on your message and the firing continuous. You either have to despawn (which isn't always possible) , turn down the game volume or hope they shoot again to correct the firebug. Since this bug has been around for years, what I'm hoping that can be added is a reset audio button that fixes your own audio. Perhaps CTRL + S or something. Not sure how much coding is required for this and it won't fix it for other people but if it means I can maintain my SA and not get a headache at the end of the battle, I'd be happy.

I am not arguing your point on the German land units of the Navy; and I admit that i have not researched too closely into the British and French, beyonf finding the images that I have shown in this thread, but I KNOW that the United States Navy DID use shipboard Naval personnel as infantry.

Point of fact: Sailors as Infantry in the US Navy ~ Patrick H. Roth (Captain, US Navy, Ret.)
  Some quotes: " On June 7 2005 Chief of Naval Operations, Admiral Vern Clark, directed development of a “Navy Expeditionary Sailor Battalion Concept” with the goal of standing up a combat battalion in fiscal year 2007. This is return to the past. Up through the 1970s, competency as naval infantry—sailors performing as infantry, and sometimes providing land based artillery support—has been an integral part of the Navy’s operations.

While this competency has been gone from the fleet for a generation, its return can be facilitated by an examination of a rich history. "

" In 1891, the Bureau of Ordnance issued “Instructions for Infantry and Artillery, United States Navy." Besides providing instructions for drill and tactics for infantry and artillery, “Instructions” general regulations directed that: "Each ship and squadron will have a permanently organized landing force composed of infantry and artillery….”
“ The section, consisting of one officer, two petty officers, and sixteen men, is the unit of organization. All sections are drilled both as infantry and artillery." " The largest operation during the early years of the 20th century involved the occupation of Vera Cruz Mexico in 1914. A seaman brigade of some 2,500 bluejackets conducted the landing and infantry assault alongside a 1,300 man marine brigade. "

" Guidance on amphibious landings continued to be included in Navy Landing Force Manuals until 1938. By then amphibious landing tactical doctrine had been subsumed by publication of the Marine Corps developed “Tentative Landing Operations Manual” of 1935, which was adopted by the Navy in 1938 as “Fleet Publication 167.” Landing party organization continued to be required and infantry drill and tactics continued to be part of the Landing Force Manuals. Bluejacket infantry continue to have a role, albeit much more minor than it had been decades earlier. In China, infantry operations ashore by sailors continued as an integral part of the Asiatic Fleet’s operations along the Yangtze River even though the marines had taken over the bulk of activity. "

During WWII: " ...a Naval Battalion, formed from the remnants of the shore establishment of the 16th Naval District in the Philippines, performed bravely and effectively on Bataan in late 1941 and early 1942. The USS Philadelphia landed a landing party to assist the 47th Infantry in capturing airport at Loa Senia, Morocco, during Operation Torch. Admiral Halsey’s Third Fleet sailors, organized as three battalions of infantry, assisted marines and a British Landing party with the occupation of Yokosuka Naval Base at the end of World War II. "


USS Houston (CA-30), ship's landing force reembarks from a motor launch, after exercises ashore at Dumanquilas Bay, Mindanao, circa 1931-33
Note that they are not dressed in Marine OD or camo uniforms, but Navy ones.

https://www.history.navy.mil/research/library/online-reading-room/title-list-alphabetically/s/sailors-as-infantry-us-navy.html