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  1. 2 gigs is plenty for windows xp. If you're running anything else you need 4.
  2. Yet everyone still complains about ATI's drivers like nvidia never has a problem.... =)
  3. Just think of all the money you saved as well. Try buying a quad core running at 3.2ghz stock.
  4. It will either crash during a game, crash at desktop, fail to load windows, or fail to load the bios entirely. Usually you can get back into the bios and change the settings back or add voltage. If you accidentally put in settings that fail to allow you to access the bios at all that's when you use the cmos reset jumper or switch depending on what your MB has. That will restore default bios settings and allow you to reboot if you are stuck. Then you go back into the bios and either add voltage, back off the speed from the non-bootable setting, or fix the settings change that it didn't like. 1.4v on the cpu is the accepted 24/7 air cooling limit on the 45nm core2duo's. The older 65nm chips like yours could tolerate up to 1.55v. To find your machines speed limit on the stock voltage simply raise the cpu fsb little by little until some type of instability shows up. If you download prime95/orthos and run that as a stress test after each 3-5mhz or so speed increase you can get it to fail there first. Then add a little voltage at that same level and see if it becomes stable again. Sometimes you haven't actually reached a cpu limit and it's the northbridge that needs more voltage. I usually bump the northbridge voltage a little if I'm overclocking the cpu fsb very extensively. Watch your temps the whole time. Prime95 100% cpu load temps of 60-65 are acceptable but that is about as hot as I like to run a core2duo. Prime95 runs hotter than any game will though. WW2ol rarely uses more than 40-50% cpu load at spikes never 100% load sustained like any of the stress test programs do. I like to run my cpu voltage a little higher than stock if I'm overclocked at all. I feel like intel purposely limits the stock voltage to allow the chips to run cool on the crappy stock cooler and to score well in thermal output tests which have become part of any good cpu review article. I think their cpu's run much more stable with a slight voltage increase if you are stretching their limits. A little is no big deal on an aftermarket heatpipe style air cooler.
  5. I'd just keep the cooler it looks pretty nice, way better than stock anyway. I don't think I'd bother taking it back. You could add some high quality thermal paste to your MB order. That way when you remount the cpu cooler on the new MB you'll have a little better performance. When you buy thermal paste you get enough to mount 20+ cpu's so it will last you a while. This is about the best stuff around. Totally worth 6$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835100007 DDR800 ram actually runs at 400mhz. It is rated as 800 because all ddr, (D.double D.data R. rate), sends data at the top and bottom of the clock cycle. That doubles the transfer rate so for marketing purposes or whatever ddr's rated speed is twice the actual clock speed. With 800mhz ram at stock speed I might go for a 7.5 times multiplier and 400mhz main cpu fsb clock to match the ram. That makes exactly 3ghz. You might have to bump the CPU and northbridge voltage to run that. You might have got lucky and your chip will hit 3.2. Overclocking is luck of the draw.
  6. I was going to give you some step by step. It's really easy with those MB's. There's a good bios. Just watch your memory speed and raise your fsb. Once your fsb gets so high you may have to change memory speeds to keep it near the stock range. You can add a little voltage once it gets unstable and it might go quite a bit higher but you have to watch your temps. Use the Asus smartdoctor program that comes with the MB to monitor the cpu and MB temps. Keep the cpu under 60 celcius if you can. Raising voltage raises temps fast. You can get a nice overclock generally on the stock voltage with most chips and it doesn't effect temps near as much as messing with voltage does. Overclocking without raising voltage is very safe. You will reach a wall where it won't run any higher stable. At that point you back it off until it is stable and maybe squeak in a little extra cpu voltage to guarantee you hold that stability. I'm betting you'll peak out near 333fsb x9, about 3ghz core speed. You can lower the multiplier and go for 400fsb. Your chip will probably run it. 400fsbx7=2.8ghz, a 400mhz increase over stock on the core and a vast increase in fsb bandwidth.
  7. You could use it if you want. The pro is a decent overclocker. I'm not sure if the P5Qc is quite as good. I think they put slightly different NB cooling on the non pro versions. At that price I would rather have a P5Qpro, not that it's much different or that I will use the extra video card slot but I only paid $129 for mine. You should be able to get the non pro version of the P5Q for around $99. Your price is a little high at $150 for a non pro single video slot version. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131347
  8. It's the best cpu right now. The only reason to go with anything else is cost or overclocking ability. Last I read intel has limited the overclock potential of all low end models. The corei7 forces you to run ddr3 and also to buy an expensive MB. You might be wise to wait for a few revisions to the MB selection for the corei7. The first boards for a new cpu socket are never the best. Many times they don't support minor changes in later models of the cpu. The current e8000 series core2duo chips are still very much worth building with, especially if you are on a budget. If you like to spend a lot of money on something you won't have to touch for a while the corei7 is the only way to go. The corei7 is about 20% faster per clock cycle than the current wolfdale and yorkfield core cpu's on the 775 socket. Since the nicer wolfdales regularly hit 4ghz when tuned and the only reasonably priced corei7's are under 3ghz you can actually outperform the new cpu with the older ones if you are overclocking literate for way less money. 20% performance boost per clock can't make up for a 1ghz difference in speed. DDR2 is also fully capable of supplying all the bandwidth current cpu's need. The corei7 is the first cpu that really is designed to use ddr3.
  9. Just a guess I would say it's at least a 10% improvement, especially with an old system where taking care of a problem like this might be opening up a bottleneck. It could give you a 20% boost it's hard to tell. I think you will notice though. The color coding is a dead giveaway. The two blue slots are going to be your dual channel slots. You might even be stuck running ddr333 right now without knowing it. Many boards defaulted to that with all the slots full. Dual channel was only supported in ddr400 mode. That would only run with 2 slots full. All current boards are dual dual channel. That is 4 slots and 2 dual channels. Some boards have the paired sticks right next to each other, some skip a slot. You have to look at your boards color coding and manual to get them in the right slot.
  10. The only problem with the Antec 900 and any other case that mounts upside down like that is that PSU and MB designers don't always take into consideration that type of case and sometimes the leads on some models of PSU don't reach the correct plugs on the MB because of the different configuration. If you stay with a high end PSU made for full towers typically you won't have an issue. It's a great case otherwise though. That's the only thing that's kept me from using it much.
  11. You have a standard ATX size MB not a miniATX right? You have a mid tower case? As long as you have a mid tower case you can fit any MB in there except extended ATX but you don't need to worry about that. Even if you have a miniATX case you can still buy a nice aftermarket board that will let you overclock. MB's come with a replacement back plate for the case so don't worry about the ports lining up. I think getting a new board might be your best plan of action. Get an aftermarket cpu cooler while you're at it. Do a fresh reformat, get rid of HP's crap software, and overclock that cpu. You'll be styling. I'll recommend this board. I'm running 3.8ghz stable with it on an e7200. It's one of the cheapest newer boards with dual video card slots. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131299 Throw one of these in the cart. They're so worth $20, kicks the crap out of stock. 1600 reviews at newegg alone. It's probably the most popular aftermarket cooler in the world. Mostly because of the price/performance. There is better but they are two or three times the price. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185125 That's about $150 total, not bad when you consider the price of the cpu you where talking about buying. The 9650 is still $1000. What a waste of money. I'm outperforming any 9650 running stock speed significantly with a $119 processor and some overclocking skills.
  12. Yes there is a slight performance boost from enabling both cores on ww2ol, nowhere near what you might expect but it's noticeable. I heard recently that it can get rid of some lag issues as well.
  13. Is it possible to flash the bios so that you have a standard one for that MB instead of the HP non-overclocking bios? Don't get too excited until you find out if it's possible. I know it is sometimes but sometimes HP and dell have unique MB's built for them that will only run their bios. It is an idea though. Are you sure you can't get into the bios? HP has to have a way. You might be locked from overclocking but you should be able to get into your bios. Clock speed is still king as far as gaming goes. If anyone disagrees just show me the benchmarks where the significantly slower quad cores outperform dual cores that run faster clocks. A dual core at 3ghz will totally outperform a quad at 2.4 in ww2ol, no question. If I were you and I had the money, I would probably grab a core2duo e8600. They run 3.33 and aren't that expensive. What if instead of getting a new cpu you grabbed a cheap MB like the Asus p5Qpro and just tried to see what your Q6600 can do? Most of them can hit 3ghz. That would probably be way cheaper than upgrading the cpu to the Q9850.
  14. No, you can get a 3870 for $90. Why would you buy a 3650? See my last post. 2650's and 3650's have horrible fill rate compared to cards that are almost the same price. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131095
  15. I've used nothing but ATI with this game and had no problems minus the occational driver release that ww2ol doesn't agree with but that same thing happens with nvidia. You've pointed out what makes upper end cards so much better in ww2ol than mid and low range cards. Fill rate. What makes that fill rate better in the upper end cards is most of them have twice the memory bus of the mid and low range stuff. The 7900gs has a 256bit memory bus. As far as I know even the newest mid range cards that came out weeks ago are still using a 128bit memory bus. Looking for that upper end card that is still cheap with good fill rate is more important than what brand. I'd be willing to guess that the ati cards you used where mid range cards then you upgraded to an upper end nvidia making the ati stuff look bad. The 7900gs is equal to an ati x1950 which can also be found for almost nothing now. If you can help it get at least a HD3850 or an nvidia 8800. The 7900gs/x1950 are only directx9 compatible and it won't like new games that use directx10.