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  1. All the small ams have been audited but we aren't done with modifying how the data is handled by the code. The two weapons we have 'fixed' in test perform exactly to spec in dispersion so stay tuned...
  2. There are some definite issues with fg42 data that will be fixed shortly. I'd suggest everyone wait and see what it does when real data is applied - but agree the US weapons laid out above are a higher priority than any immediate fg42 equivalence.
  3. Had to do the 17pdr to get firefly...
  4. Lipton working time fused director based HE in background but no eta yet all frags don't kill...it's already based on frag mass and velocity so you can get nicked rather than killed. The bigger the HE though the larger the casing and the larger the frags. the heavy AA HE vs planes should be a lot more effective but they really become what they should be with error corrected time fuses
  5. Sample burst against multiple exposed targets to give everyone an idea of fragment reach (based on mass and velocity). Every munition is different in that regard. Targets are fully elevated and exposed infantry here. Note only frags that will hit a target are thrown at it https://gyazo.com/79f50bf10e0133d8f7a0a2e3e2a663eb
  6. you should expect 3-5 inches in the next iteration range dependent - but one hundred yards is the reference range for the Brits.. so .59 mils minus human effects. All bolt action rifles will be updated to what the should be for aimed dispersion with stock ammo...
  7. OK.. Going to just try and interject facts here without any side tracking. The simple question is what should the bolt action rifle be doing for aimed fire. That's its purpose on the battlefield. I have pulled the accuracy data and audited it at the behest of this thread. We can look at expected dispersion of bolt action rifles in terms of either MOA (minutes of angle) or mils. MOA = 2πR÷21,600 at a given range. Lee-enfield rifles (those not worked over by the armorer for accuracy) were expected to achieve 2-2.5 MOA accuracy with stock ammunition, or a grouping of 3" at 100 yards with 10% of any production lot tested out to six hundred yards, where 90% of the shots had to fall in a two foot circle. On the .303 ammo side, a lot was passed for service if it achieved less than 6" at 600 yards. Thus the minimum standard for .303 ball is about 2.67 MOA. By comparison match grade 7.62mmx51 ammo today comes in at about 1 MOA or less. A lee-enfield can shoot sub MOA on a good day with support and with good ammunition and a tuned weapon, as can the K98 or MAS, but as its the norm we need to use, it is reasonable to expected 2 MOA from this rifle or really any properly manufactured bolt action rifle. As for the K98 and MAS-36 there simply isn't much to choose from in terms of a different accuracy. All these rifles can also shoot sub MOA but a 2 MOA results for stock ammo/rifle/average shooter is reasonable. All can achieve sub MOA if using a rested firing position and tuned ammo/ optics. So in a quick review of the data and converting to mils - all bolt action rifles should be .59 mils without any further human effects (suppression, breathing control, rate of fire, shooter training and quality considerations etc) That's normal dispersion with stock rifles and ammunition for an average shooter should be about that. Bolt action SNIPER rifles using selected ammunition and an armorer tuned weapons should be at about .3 mils assuming a generic high power optical sight. The difference in the bolt actions is really in the rate of fire. Lee Enfield is the clear winner there as it has a shorter lighter bolt and a magazine capacity delta. In a mad minute, the Lee-Enfield will trounce both K98 and MAS-36. Rates of fire - aimed shots per minute to include reload time Lee Enfield 24-25 (record rate of fire was 37 rounds/minute) K98 15 MAS-36 15 Far too much quoting of specific instances from the internet using tuned rifles, match quality ammunition, etc. What matters to the game is what the average enlisted shooter could do with his weapon. So - that's the proper data going forward for rifle accuracy and rate of fire. It's backed up by a mountain of practical shooting data for all three weapons, and in some instances, the same weapon is various calibers. I've personally fired two of these three weapons and I also find the data in alignment with my personal experience as an infantry officer. I trained snipers once upon a time so while not a world expert I have a wealth of practical knowledge in judging this for what's reasonable. Same same for the 1903 Springfield. Thanks to all for bringing it to attention...next look will be on rifle sway and offset in raising to a firing position, but be aware that that has a lot to do with you exhaustion state and the load you are carrying. Again range fire is WAY different than advancing under fire with a load and trying to stay alive long enough to shoot. Rate of fire and suppression also counts. There SHOULD be randomization on raising to a firing position in a real field environment...the only question is whether or not there is too much or too little ATM. Quoting youtube videos of bench rested sitting shooters is simply NOT what is achieved by infantryman in real world combat environments.
  8. the HE audits only includes munition effects...nothing to do with weapon aiming etc. Having said that I'll take a look see at what can be done to make things as realistic as possible. Just one more thing to do!
  9. On the picture if it's an APHE it will not go out the back end. If you get good fuse function it breaks up the round after primary penetration. Those irregularly shaped frags are large and designed to penetrate ammo and storage but they will be poor at subsequent RHA penetration. Solid shot with or without cap can go through a target...
  10. AP can be fickle and HEAT even more so...much depends on the interaction of the vehicle model with how the projectiles are modeled. As for bombs, they are great frag producers and the average frag size can be enough to do in many a target...but...they too can be fickle...depending on ground condition etc. Blast over pressure can also be iffy depending on the target. Not all AFV are equal in that regard. A 500 lb bomb with a short delay, or positioned underneath an AFV will likely destroy it, but may not kill the crew. I've seen M-48s hit buried bombs and suffer just that affect. Total destruction of the engine compartment, non-salvageable, but the crew survived. Likewise a pershing taking direct hits from 152mm HE and surviving without casualties or ill effect. Obviously light AFV are a different story. That's usually destruction of the target. We can probably do better but it's all a matter of priorities. What's most important?
  11. email me next time and I'll go - did they have any inert ordnance?
  12. I'd be there - along with all the ammunition - assuming its here in Dallas somewhere...might need a convoy to get it all there though!
  13. Hope so - if you do it in the next 3 years all the ammo will be off the shelves and on display again...