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A question for those who are into graphics cards and sound cards. I'm running a QuadCore Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600, 2400 MHz (9 x 267) on a Asus P5N-E SLI mobo, with 2 gigs of Corsair XMS2 CM2X512A-6400 memory. OS is Vista 32 bit (I'd prefer 64 bit, but my employer provides 32 bit for £10). Current graphics card is a Nvdia 8500GT with a ridiculous 1gb memory and sound is onboard Realtek.

BE plays ok, but I do struggle getting decent audio, especially 3D sounds that ar so important for situational awareness.

I'd appreciate some advice on memory, graphics (ATI or Nvidia?) and sound upgrades you experts would recommend, on a limited budget.

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Soundblaster Xfi for audio ( make sure its a hardware audio variant)

GFX card depends on your budget and your PSU.

Ati 4850 would be my first impulse.

Memory is a bit of a problem, with a 32bit system yer limited to 3.2GB - gfx card RAM.

So while you could get a slight amount of extra RAM available its not really that much more.

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Your video card is a little lacking. A 4850 is about the best fps/dollar deal out there right now. I run one and it loves ww2ol. Your cpu is nice but it has a slow default clock speed and most games don't take advantage of the multiple cores.

If I were you that e6600 would be sped up a little to at least 300x9 or so. That's been the most popular overclocking quad for years because it's the cheapest. Most can make it up to 3-3.6ghz. Between that clock speed boost and a 4850 it would feel like a new machine. The nvidia alternative to the 4850 would be the 9800gtx+.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-168-AS&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=&name=Asus%20ATI%20Radeon%20HD%204850%20512MB%20GDDR3%20TV-Out/Dual%20DVI/HDMI%20(PCI-Express)%20-%20Retail

This is the sound card you want. They don't even sell these in the US anymore. It has the same audio processor as the top end xfi cards. It supports 128 hardware sounds which is the max in ww2ol.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=SC-055-CL&groupid=701&catid=11&subcat=&name=Creative%20Sound%20Blaster%20X-FI%20Xtreme%20Music%20UAA%20Vista-Certified%207.1%20Sound%20Card%20-%20OEM%20(PCI)%20(30SB077200000)

Like direwo said you need to make sure your PSU is up to par before upgrading the video card. The 4850 or anything else towards the upper end will require at the very least a 500watt PSU with a 18-20amp 12volt video card rail.

You are a little lacking in ram. Don't decide against another 2 gig kit just because vista32 has the same design limitations as xp32 and can't support the full 4 gigs. It uses most of it and you'll be totally ready to run 64bit without having to get more ram later. If you just got another 1 gig kit to run 3 gigs total. All of your ram slots will be full. If you later want to go to 4 gigs you'll have to toss your 1 gig pair. The ram is probably the least important out of these upgrades for a good gaming experience.

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Thank you both for your replies - ATI here I come :)

The creative card looks good for the money, so that's on the list - along with an upgraded psu.

Thanks again! :)

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here is a hopefully usefull link that might help you under stand the cards better

http://www.nvidia.com/object/graphics_cards_buy_now.html

here is my mobo i am planing to get

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188028

and even if it does have poor audio i am going to counter it with this sound card

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829102005

this is not so much about me just thought i would give you some ideas as well

p.s. also i am sure lazy will tell me if this is wrong or not but i like to go after the GX2 cards here is a link for them

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2000380048%201305520548%201069633099%20106792522%201067937879&name=GeForce%209800%20GX2

also another one i think would be pretty good but you might be paying through the nose a little bit more

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2000380048%201305520548%201069633099%20106792634%201067940782&name=GeForce%20GTX%20280

lazy is a very good guy he knows what he is talking about but i just thought i would post some more ideas about my thinking

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p.s. also i am sure lazy will tell me if this is wrong or not but i like to go after the GX2 cards here is a link for them

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2000380048%201305520548%201069633099%20106792522%201067937879&name=GeForce%209800%20GX2

I won't say anything about your suggestion in itself. I just want to point out that dual GPU solutions, be it SLI, Crossfire or single cards with dual GPU's doesn't do anything for this game. Sadly enough.

So, if someone is buying stuff for this game alone, don't buy a GX2 or any of the ATI X2's because a single GPU of the same type does the same job.

Though, there are other games out there so it might be worth it anyway, just be aware about this game not supporting multiple GPU's in any way.

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He's in the UK and can't use those newegg links. OCuk seems to be a great place to shop from what I've heard from some of our brother across the pond.

I didn't give you a power supply link. If you're thinking about getting a new one you can do a heck of a lot worse for the money than one of these corsair tx650's.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-008-CS

I run one. It's got a 52amp 12 volt rail. For running a single video card, that's more 12volt capacity than most 1000watt psu's on the market. It will run dual 4850's without a problem. Probably dual 4870's. Even though ati might recommend larger for the 4870 the tx650 isn't a standard 650watt. Like I was saying the 12volt rail is enormous. The tx750 is rated at 60amps on the video card rail.

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Thanks Lazyboy - there is a cheaper retailer where the same psu is cheaper http://www.ebuyer.com/product/135514 - OC'sUK look to be a good outfit though.

Ebuyer's warehouse and offices are only about 20miles from where I live, so returns might be easier..

It looks like I'll need to spend about £250 - £300 to upgrade, that plus OC'ing the CPU looks like I'll be a happy bunny. Thanks again!

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well the links were not so much about where the company is at but just was giving him a idea about price and cards if he should happen to go with ividia and my card set up is set up not just for this game alone i play others.

how anyone thinks every time i put up info of what i like to go after thinks for this game needs to start asking me is it for this game along or for others and i would appreciate if others would start asking me that.

then going on the assumption that i am talking about just for this game alone this is not so much a whine just respectful requesting.

also on another note would not surprise me not one bit to see new egg show up in europe to as big of a hit as they are in the U.S

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