Ltarflak

this is some BS...

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why is this a thing in the game?  I mean c'mon !! i hit him a ton of times and nothing, i put atleast 20 rounds into the cockpit...

 

 

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Well, you hit him with BB's, single stream of BB's at that.
I'm not sure if you hit the cockpit, could not tell from video, looks like you sprayed the engine and parts of the fuselage.
Have to hit the pilot himself though, you could put 40 rounds into the wiring and radio etc on any plane and it doesn't have much effect. 

Think you might have hit someones bombardier though?

Bombardier in front
Pilot upstairs

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1 hour ago, merlin51 said:

I'm not sure if you hit the cockpit, could not tell from video, looks like you sprayed the engine and parts of the fuselage.
Have to hit the pilot himself though, you could put 40 rounds into the wiring and radio etc on any plane and it doesn't have much effect. 

yeah its hard to hit a moving target while trying to fly and shooting, and the 75 drum mag doesn't help 

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Just now, Ltarflak said:

yeah its hard to hit a moving target while trying to fly and shooting, and the 75 drum mag doesn't help 

Yep, that it is, specially with a single string of BB's to boot.
Now the new stuka, oh man, that tailgun is shred O licious.
Still BB's but BB volcano

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The flight dynamics of many aircraft are completely wrong.

It's a wonder there is no LW, or not...?

I've never once seen  a 111 doing loopy de loops, see db7 and havoc do them every day.

Should be ashamed of the flight models in this game.

 

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Oh you can loop and roll a HE-111
Id probably not recommend it, its response rate? is that right term? isn't good for it.
At least not around EA anyways.

It goes about as well as looping a blen in that aspect, EA just giggle at your attempt.

Now mind you when ever we get stress damage, everyone but the stuka pilot is going to be laying on the ground, in pieces minus their wings, cursing to high heaven.
It's will be just like flying DR1's in DOA
For me anyways, cause im always shredding the wings off 

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16 minutes ago, delems said:

The flight dynamics of many aircraft are completely wrong.

It's a wonder there is no LW, or not...?

I've never once seen  a 111 doing loopy de loops, see db7 and havoc do them every day.

Should be ashamed of the flight models in this game.

 

its a shame 

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Will be nice to see what happens when the JABO's are added... Get some faster bombers for the axis side.  

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1 hour ago, delems said:

The flight dynamics of many aircraft are completely wrong.

It's a wonder there is no LW, or not...?

I've never once seen  a 111 doing loopy de loops, see db7 and havoc do them every day.

Should be ashamed of the flight models in this game.

 

You aren't suggesting that the Luftwaffe is gimped flight performance wise are you?

 

Slight off-topic.  Is there any chance for partial AI control of certain things like aircraft gunners?  Bombers are currently way too easy to kill for fighters.  While an unescorted lone bomber was generally an easier kill it was still a risk for the attacking fighters.

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5 hours ago, SCKING said:

Will be nice to see what happens when the JABO's are added... Get some faster bombers for the axis side.  

Axis side is pretty sexy already.. Where is my Apache!!

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3 hours ago, stankyus said:

Axis side is pretty sexy already.. Where is my Apache!!

allied side will be getting Hurribomber’s.. French and Brit HurriIIb’s w/ bombs and 10 MGs

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Allied planes settings are wrong since 2001...while ANY other serious sim on the market has the right settings ! I mailed CRS asking them if they intended to do something about it. Meanwhile, their bias has made LW HC empty and we barely see 3 LW planes in  the sky at prime-time. While they say they deseperatly need more subscribers, they keep slapping the face of any player willing to have fun in an Axis plane for more than a decade...

But i guess they think they'll lose most of allied players using  planes if so...tho, i really think they'd appreciate having a real challenge up there, by having the real settings. Whats the point fighting nerfed planes anyway...or flying über-planes,when you consider yourself as a good pilot : victories should be decided on your skills, not on biased armor settings.

While most upgrades need time and money to show up in WWIIOL, this one could be done in a day and wouldnt need a Dollar. You talk about BBs being swallowed with zero effects, well on friday night i saw a Spit 1 take 70 x 20 mm cannon shells at less than 100meters and a DB7 take 30x20mm in the wing...with zero real damages of course....

Sad.

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I don't see anything wrong with LW planes in regards to allied planes.  I can also get kills with the e4 fairly easy with minimal cannon rounds.

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28 minutes ago, fufubear1f said:

I don't see anything wrong with LW planes in regards to allied planes.  I can also get kills with the e4 fairly easy with minimal cannon rounds.

There are a lot of Axis tears about the DB-7 and Spitfire that have accumulated over the years.  You have to treat every thread like this with a grain of salt.  

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Add up total number of of air sorties near the end of the campaign for both sides. Do that for about 10 campaigns or so across both Axis and Allied victories. Then you’ll get a picture of the relative health of the air game. 

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1 hour ago, Capco said:

There are a lot of Axis tears about the DB-7 and Spitfire that have accumulated over the years.  You have to treat every thread like this with a grain of salt.  

Except all the videos I've posted showing db7s and spits soaking up 40mm like they were sponges. 

You've either have to be totally inexperienced trying to shoot them down or willfully ignorant about their problems. 

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12 minutes ago, Mosizlak said:

Except all the videos I've posted showing db7s and spits soaking up 40mm like they were sponges. 

You've either have to be totally inexperienced trying to shoot them down or willfully ignorant about their problems. 

What I said doesn't preclude me from accepting that there is also a grain of truth in these tears.  But threads like these hurt the chances of getting any issues corrected (there's nothing in the OP vid that seems out of touch with reality).  

 

I've always believed there to be a serious issue with the Spitfire DM. 

 

At the same time, everything I've read about the DB-7 says that it was an extremely rugged light bomber/intruder aircraft.  Apart from doing loops (which were expressly prohibited in the DB-7 manual), I think the aircraft is modeled fairly accurately.  Don't be surprised if the airplane can still absorb a decent amount of hits and fly like a bat out of hell after it gets audited.  

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Will see what happens after the HE audit to test deeper on all the aircraft. Still expecting that audit to be done in Q1

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38 minutes ago, Capco said:

At the same time, everything I've read about the DB-7 says that it was an extremely rugged light bomber/intruder aircraft. ... I think the aircraft is modeled fairly accurately. 

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5 hours ago, SCKING said:

allied side will be getting Hurribomber’s.. French and Brit HurriIIb’s w/ bombs and 10 MGs

Rather have a Spit2B with bombs if that ever existed so it can go h2h with the Jabo 109s. I think the P40 carried bombs too.

Actually looked it up, the P40 did carry bombs - 250 to 1000lbs of them on 3 hard points.

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1 hour ago, Mosizlak said:

Except all the videos I've posted showing db7s and spits soaking up 40mm like they were sponges. 

You've either have to be totally inexperienced trying to shoot them down or willfully ignorant about their problems. 

Lost one DB7 yesterday to a SMG... replace the 20s with 9mm!  Junglecat (SP?) got me at 500' with it.

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The air game is nearly dead, mostly LW players switch to other games because this game is unic for unrealistic gameplay.

 

 

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3 hours ago, Capco said:

What I said doesn't preclude me from accepting that there is also a grain of truth in these tears.  But threads like these hurt the chances of getting any issues corrected (there's nothing in the OP vid that seems out of touch with reality).  

 

I've always believed there to be a serious issue with the Spitfire DM. 

 

At the same time, everything I've read about the DB-7 says that it was an extremely rugged light bomber/intruder aircraft.  Apart from doing loops (which were expressly prohibited in the DB-7 manual), I think the aircraft is modeled fairly accurately.  Don't be surprised if the airplane can still absorb a decent amount of hits and fly like a bat out of hell after it gets audited.  

Sorry, the DB7/havoc model is totally FUBAR. Everyone who uses it and fights against it knows it.  

Just put 4x40mm into one and it didn't even slow it down. Ask drake1.  He's over an FB like a UFO bombing stuff with impunity. 

 

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