the 47mm atg

[dertod]

the french atg 47mm shield is fixed on 1.31? because when you shoot at 47mm on 1.30 with a atg or tank the shell go through it ,like the shield dont have hit colision and sometime is very hard to kill it from the front ,i reported this like 1year ago and not been fixed

[Hinfoos]

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Edited December 24, 2009 by Hinfoos

[Werkelijk]

OMG I tried to killed a laffy in the 1.31 beta with a tiger tank, and a bunch of other tanks and ATG's and it wouldn't DIE!!!!

/sarcasm

[fearny]

O.o

[dertod]

just go test it on training server, you will know what i talking about ,place the 47mm at 500m and shoot it with a tank

[dertod]

On 1.30 training server find a friend to spawn a 47mm french atg ,place it 500m away ,then spawn a pak 36 and fire on 47mm frontal shield ,do you see a impact on him when you land a shell right on him?? ,you can't create spall damage because the shield is bugged and shell go through it ,plz fix this bug .

[GOPHUR]

Everything looks right on the model. The damage object exists and has 10mm of equivalent armor. I'll ask DOC to step in for some deeper testing.

[DOC]

The model is all there. That means the shield as well. Values are all correct. You can kill both crew members and that includes via penetration through or spall from off the gunshield.

There *IS* an issue with the crew members visual rendering and where they "actually are" WRT damage modeling. This is the FUBAR crew damage models we have been plagued by for years. They work in terms of being kill-able but they aren't correctly aligned, although in debug they do APPEAR to be correctly aligned which is why they were overlooked for so long. This is compounded for players in that they can't "search around for by spraying bullets" any form of a death clue visually, as the models don't "die" in terms of visual clues.

They are slated for overhaul very soon as we are going to give them new crew models as part of the visual overhaul of the game. It's long long long overdue but so are a lot of things, we can only do so much with such a tiny staff.

Sorry we can't do anything sooner than that but at least it is going to happen. We have to redo the models of all the ATG's and AAG's to pull this off, and that is the task we are setting ourselves.

[dertod]

sorry but ,the 47mm shield IS bugged,just go test it ,last night watched my father with a pak36 ,and he spoted a atg 47mm at 150m of him ,he fire 4 time RIGHT on him then 47mm deployed and killed my father 1 shot,i saw all his shots go trouhgt the 47mm shield with no impact effect ,so there NO spall can be ,im tired of this bug, dont tell me there no bug, and i think the crew is inversed too,PLZ DO SOME TEST.

[DOC]

We have tested it, we know exacxtly what it's doing in debug code analysis, now you have to wait for the rebuild that fixes it's problems.