I was hoping 1.31 was going to fix other players from seeing no bushes

[ironfist]

Its seems to have gotten worse ...instead

Im pretty sure this will not end well as we dont discuss things like this but to deny it there is no problem dont help things either

Is there a fix incoming so that ALL players SEE what the rest of us see ?

Other players not seeing the bush your in is not good gameplay

[mcketten]

If u r referring to the 'no bush bug' that strikes people unfortunately I believe it is a graphix card issue, not a software issue, and it can never be truly fixed.

Unfortunately there are a few out there who know how to replicate it reliably...unfortunately for them, really, because forcing this bug can have nasty side effects upon their hardware and OS.

[belnz]

I have this bug and its driving me insane.

I feel that i cannot play as ground pounder any more since there will always be some berm somewhere without bushes.

I assure you that its not deliberate!

[soman]

If u r referring to the 'no bush bug' that strikes people unfortunately I believe it is a graphix card issue, not a software issue, and it can never be truly fixed.

Unfortunately there are a few out there who know how to replicate it reliably...unfortunately for them, really, because forcing this bug can have nasty side effects upon their hardware and OS.

Who?

[timmy41]

I have this bug and its driving me insane.

I feel that i cannot play as ground pounder any more since there will always be some berm somewhere without bushes.

I assure you that its not deliberate!

what video card? have the latest driver?

ATI drivers

Nvidia drivers

[skyfallr]

the problem is not so simple.

yes, there are some vid cards/drivers that allow people to have x-ray vision.

others use hacks that let them see where the enemy is on the minimap (or simply use a 2nd account to spy).

then there's people who can run the game at very high resolutions and have big screens. I'm one of those.

a 29" monitor and running 1920 resolution ... I can see things, particularly infantry, ridiculously easy when they're inside bushes FROM LONG RANGE.

At close range I cant see them very well. Seems that at long range, high res and big screen you can spot moving pixels easily..aim at them, get the range and yes, kill them.

A few days ago I was pleased to see I was landing kills with a rifleman from 800m away. Sure as heck couldnt hit them when they ran but when they went down to recover stamina.. my bullet would find them.

high res also lets you see atg/aa crewmen from much farther away than at, say, 1280 res.

the only thing crs can do is to add more solid cover to the game. more white walls, more broken buildings outside of town, more ruins, more felled trees, more rocks.

[kagetora]

Have always believed its as much server side as it is client side. I have had it now and again over the life time of three PC's/Gfx cards, always in areas of high player activity, always in specific towns/areas of the map and when I have had it others have also.

[bigrow]

I got killed by someone with no bushes the other day. I deliberately went and stood with my map out a few times where i knew he could not see me if he had bushes, he still had the cheek to kill me:mad:

I PMd him and he denied it, funnily he then locked his stats:rolleyes:

I guess no1 rifleman is up for grabs again until he unlocks them.

[elegance]

It is a client side issue. And it is a game breaker. Just put your comp under enough stress, run other programs at the same time, alt tab like crazy. You are bound to trigger a corruption. If you are lucky there will be no trees...

[ironfist]

It is a game breaker when this a FPS

I think it is on purpose that those that do this Know they are doing this and they DO take advantage of this bug or driver

Its also at epidemic proportions or I would not be posting this thread if it only happend once in awhile

I have made multi dot reports (not sure if any gms where online at the time) but I made them and logged so that my last killer could be IDed and delt with

[lutorm]

It is a game breaker when this a FPS

I think it is on purpose that those that do this Know they are doing this and they DO take advantage of this bug or driver

Its also at epidemic proportions or I would not be posting this thread if it only happend once in awhile

I'm not saying you're wrong, but I question how you know that it's of "epidemic proportions". There is no way you can know if you're killed by someone with a graphics bug or by someone who just saw you run into the bush, saw you poke out, or saw your muzzle flash, and then just aim for the center of the bush. Remember that bushes are concealment, not cover. Once someone knows you're in there, it's not that hard to hit you even if they can't see you.

The reason I don't see how this can be a big problem is that I don't see how it can be fun to cheat so you can see everyone and then just shoot like a shooting range. That would be cool for 15 minutes, but then...? I think most people who play this game play it for the challenge and realism, and that's not what you get by cheating. The 15-year old kids who would think this funny are probably playing some shoebox shooter, not BE.

[piercer]

This is a big problem in 1.31 - seriously, anyone whos played infantry for years can tell the difference. I've been shot multiple times now, completely under cover where it was near impossible that the player saw me. No chance he saw me run into the bushes as I was there before the ET showed up. As well, there are usually 3 or 4 other players that are on mission chat saying wtf?!

I got shot by an ET the other day, went and checked the guys stats (wont say any names). Every mission was like 15, 22, 17, 20, ... sorry, doesn't matter what unit you play that's way off the bell curve for K/D.

P-

[nlp]

This bug seem not to be caused by a video card problem.

If you try to shoot, shell are not blocked by invisible trees.

So the problem is not only with the display of tree but more about their whole presence.

Spawning and despawning will not change anything, you need to restart game..

[tayvl]

This bug seem not to be caused by a video card problem....

LOL... I'm thinking he should have a LOT better FPS than that with no trees...

[vonbreur]

Ya, 1.31 still has longstanding issues apparently.

No Trees

No Bushes

Problems with switching infantry gear out/infantry weapon auto-firing each time you switch to it

ATGs still ridiculously bulletproof

[Hinfoos]

lol in 1.30 i pretty much never had it.. in 1.31 i seem to have somekind of no-bush at almost every mission.

some berm here or there. sometimes more, but not as much like the pic from nlp

Edited June 27, 2010 by Hinfoos

[delems]

There are invisible players too running around, totally killing the game for me. Standing in depot, hear em come in, I'm dead, death cam shows him in the MIDDLE of the depot shooting me, yet I never see him. And it's not my system, brand new quad core, 80ms ping 40 fps consistently or better. Last invisible guy walked through 7 of our guys before dying. I also heard it was the same guy as last night? Do I say who it was? Go look at his K/d ratio.. very interesting.

Also, bushes suck in this game now. No cover, it's that or they have no bushes. So many times now I'm a few hundred meters away, not moving, or crawling low. And I'm shot just like that by a tank or 232, just no way they would know I was there.

Sorry to say, but if some of these issues don't get fixed I'm going to quit my subscription, hard enough playing this game against others without the game messing with you too.

[munchkin]

This is a big problem in 1.31 - seriously, anyone whos played infantry for years can tell the difference. I've been shot multiple times now, completely under cover where it was near impossible that the player saw me. No chance he saw me run into the bushes as I was there before the ET showed up. As well, there are usually 3 or 4 other players that are on mission chat saying wtf?!

I got shot by an ET the other day, went and checked the guys stats (wont say any names). Every mission was like 15, 22, 17, 20, ... sorry, doesn't matter what unit you play that's way off the bell curve for K/D.

P-

Oh, I kill ei quite often that seem to think they're under cover by a bush. I have no bug, I see the bushes. Thing is, I see the ei inside the bush... sometimes even halfway outside.

If you know where to look and from what direction they're coming it's not that difficult to spot them. I've been killed hundreds of times myself when I thought I was uncer cover. I got killed so I figure I wasn't.

I'm sure there's some kiddo's out there that exploit a bug like this but it's really their problem. They're most likely on both sides so it evens out, and as others have stated, they will give it up when there's no fun involved in it. I seriously doubt that someone pays a montly fee just to be an *** towars all other players.

[ghostrider]

been getting this ALOT; restarting doesnt really help. I can fly around come back to land and they will be visible but then ill start a new mission and they are missing again. This only seems to occur with those tall pine trees with the ground cover underneath them and it only happens with certain sets of these trees.

This is the NE edge of antwerp AF

[lutorm]

Maybe if all of you who say you seeing the no-bush problem posted your system specs, complete with driver versions, etc, they would have some chance of tracking down the problem...

[Hinfoos]

same as ghost there..but also the berm-bushes.

GTX295

i7 920

6gb ram

[ghostrider]

I havent seen berm bushes disappear yet but it may be something where I just don't notice it; and this only seems to happen when im flying but then again I dont play ground all that much

[ironfist]

Maybe if all of you who say you seeing the no-bush problem posted your system specs' date=' complete with driver versions, etc, they would have some chance of tracking down the problem...[/quote']

its also makes a great shopping list if you wanna do this for personal gain as well

This is not the only game that has problems with this ....but I think this game has less of it than others (so good job CRS in that) but this patch has seemed to let the flood gates open

Ive played the game alot of years .....and this has NEVER ever been this bad as it is now .....its the norm instead of the exception and its getting old very fast

[hick]

If this is a legitimate bug, please start a new thread with system specs, driver versions, situation when bug occurred, etc.

Discussing hacks/exploits/cheating etc is against the ToS.

Thank you.