What is a link?

[loogan46]

What is a supply link? Where is the CRS utterance that changed the game so that depots in towns are not really depots in towns anymore?

Players should not be expected to call up the www.lagus.org/webmap in order to find out how to react to a situation IN GAME. After all.. it is hardly an official CRS publication, no?

Either make those damn depots in Frankfurt work, or remove them! Or rename then "Bicycle Factory 1" and "Umbrella Factory 3"... To hide behind some pre-release notes about changes in supply lines is seriously ... ?Spawnable depots and brigades are the backbone of this game, and AXIS chose to trust the rules. A depot means a depot. If it says "Mendig" on it, it is a spawnable. Pretty serious stuff if THOSE rules are now being tossed into la-la land.

Loogan46

Edited July 7, 2010 by loogan46

[Tigger6]

I would say that the HC players are supposed to be a little bit better informed and know where the links are. I originally thought that you meant Koblenz depot was bugged and you couldn't spawn out of there. In that case I would support us giving you Frankfurt back even if CRS does nothing about it.

But pretending GHC didn't know that there were only two links to Frankfurt is really pushing it. I, as a RAF officer and rather noob player have always known that even though I never ever spawned or attempted to cap Frankfurt.

[loogan46]

Then why does the GHC official training, which is endorsed by CRS, state that the only FOOLPROOF way to find out if two cities are linked, is by looking at Depot names? If there are two towns that share depots' names, THEY ARE LINKED.

Remove those depots from Frankfurt if they are just dummies!

The game has been compromised, because those depots were added for 1.31 and not "activated". Someone obviously put a lot of time into remaking Frankfurt. They should have finished the job. Now they have the chance.

Loogan46

[maskine1]

I would say that the HC players are supposed to be a little bit better informed and know where the links are. I originally thought that you meant Koblenz depot was bugged and you couldn't spawn out of there. In that case I would support us giving you Frankfurt back even if CRS does nothing about it.

But pretending GHC didn't know that there were only two links to Frankfurt is really pushing it. I, as a RAF officer and rather noob player have always known that even though I never ever spawned or attempted to cap Frankfurt.

thats not true tiger. heres a example of what i mean. Frankfurt has a depot Lohmar. So are u saying when we had a Inf unit in Lohmar we can't make a mission to frankfurt. any depot with a towns name on it is linkable. You show me any town on the map where that doesn't work.

[dawnp]

thats not true tiger. heres a example of what i mean. Frankfurt has a depot Lohmar. So are u saying when we had a Inf unit in Lohmar we can't make a mission to frankfurt. any depot with a towns name on it is linkable. You show me any town on the map where that doesn't work.

There's a CP/depot in Aachen that links to nothing. No town exists.

[acst]

There's a CP/depot in Aachen that links to nothing. No town exists.

There are alot of towns like that, but the problem stands with 1 of our factorys not being able to spawn into to defend.

[dawnp]

There are alot of towns like that' date=' but the problem stands with 1 of our factorys not being able to spawn into to defend.[/quote']

I agree, already said it should be rolled back if everything is like the OP in the last thread said it was.

I wasn't there, going on what people are saying, and if it's true, should be rolled back.

[Tigger6]

thats not true tigger. heres a example of what i mean. Frankfurt has a depot Lohmar. So are u saying when we had a Inf unit in Lohmar we can't make a mission to frankfurt. any depot with a towns name on it is linkable. You show me any town on the map where that doesn't work.

Given that lagus' webmap (and I suppose begm tools too?) are the best tools to see what the situation looks like and are heavily used by us, I find it strange that people would expect the link to be there even if it doesn't show on the webmap. Webmap data are pulled straight from the wiretap, they are not what someone drew.

Now, I fully agree that the situation should be rectified, although I don't think it will happen just so because the rats need to regenerate the whole game world.

Again- if Koblenz CP was not spawnable, then I would fully support, even push for, the change of ownership. But this case seems to be more a good opportunity to a) realize how the game mechanics work push for the fix of that part of the map. I would even say that adding a whole lot of towns would be nice if that gives us a real reason to fight in the very nice moselle valley.

As for a), every HC officer should understand that Lagus webmap shows things how they *are*, not how someone coded it in. Whoever coded the app did a great job and among other things the webmap shows for instance brigade composition through all tiers. Again- *directly* pulled from wiretap and therefore 100% accurate at all times.

[bundyrum]

And the best bit about the Lagus Webmap.

WWIIOL: Battleground Europe

OKW Map Viewer

If we on the Allied side could plainly see what it showed >

It has shown these links ever since they were introduced. Axis got caught short - End of story.

Need anymore Baby Pics for this one to be locked too?

[loogan46]

No need to lock it. I stand corrected... er not corrected... told.

It is not a bug, the way those depots in Frankfurt... aren't... really ...depots ... It is an undocumented feature of the game.

I guess Ill take it upon myself to write the documentation:

The depots in FF do not reflect supply lines. This is the one, single, solitary town in which you will find a depot to another town but no link to it.

(There are orphan depots on the edge of the map, and in Aachen, for example.. but only in Frankfurt will you see pairs of depots that do not work.)

Wow.. that was easy! Documentation!

Loogan46

[monsjoex]

Would have been nice if it would have been announced before campaign yeah.

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[megatron]

So to clarify, the bug is that the supply links were not completed properly when the city was developed. The Lagus map shows only 2 links I think from Frankfurt, when it should actually be more.

So the bug that needs to be fixed is adding supply lines, not taking away depots.

[DOC]

Not a bug. Before Koblenz and Bad Soberheim were added, Mendig USED to link to Frankfurt because that was the edge of the map and nothing existed between that point and Frankfurt. When the edge of the map was extended and Bad Soberheim/Koblenz linked in, the overlapping links were removed because they did not make sense with how links are laid across the map everywhere else.

We didn't remove the depots because cities need more buildings not less. We could still do that but it seems unessesary really, since even the webmap on the BE:WWIIOL webpage front page shows clearly that there are only two functioning active links from Frankfurt; one to Bad Soberheim and Koblenz.

Again, not a bug.