FRU not visible at 50m but vivible at 500m

[mattwitt]

Would it be possible to make FRUs that are not visible from 50 meters also be not visible from 500 meters...

[dragonkp]

All Fru's are visable.

GG

[mattwitt]

All Fru's are visable.

GG

If you are going to be willfully ignorant of what I am talking about you can find other threads to post in.

[t0rtura]

FRU only with a truck, this is my idea.

Because with a truck, you can carry ammo, and seems more realistic...

[mattwitt]

FRU only with a truck, this is my idea.

Because with a truck, you can carry ammo, and seems more realistic...

Not the issue I am talking about.

[veruca]

You're going to have to be specific. I don't even know what you're talking about. I've never heard of am invisible fru.

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[t0rtura]

Not the issue I am talking about.

You haven't presented an issue, you've presented a idea. Then I've presented mine.

[mattwitt]

There are some rendering issues, which make a FRU that is very well hidden from binos view or from 50 meters away, appear very visibly from 500 meters away.

[t0rtura]

I didn't notice that until now.

Can we reproduce this in training server?

[mattwitt]

You haven't presented an issue' date=' you've presented a idea. Then I've presented mine. [/quote']

make your own thread then, those sort of ideas area dime a dozen on these forums and i don't want everyone posting their ideas about FRUs in here.

[mattwitt]

I didn't notice that until now.

Can we reproduce this in training server?

Probably i've noticed it more then a few times and with objects other then FRUs. Tanks/atgs which can be seen from far are not visible when you go to commander sight or gunner sight.

[veruca]

Ok, now we have the ball rolling. Glad I could help facilitate. Now this thread needs to be moved to the bug forum where it belongs and the world would be right again.

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[mrfancyp]

I notice this sometimes when searching for FRUs hidden in bushlines with aircraft. There is a point when the bush lod switches to a lower quality model where you can see FRUs clearly that you otherwise didn't see at all.

[noons]

I think I know what you are saying which is to model the fru with the same specs as the bushes that they are generally hidden in. Which means that they load like the bushes do rather than loading on their own.

I also wish we had a stat for killing them as well as I have been racking them up. Generally flanking the generally area leads to an ant trail which leads to them being seen as you can't miss the brightly colored flags on the boxes.

[kubel]

Would it be possible to make FRUs that are not visible from 50 meters also be not visible from 500 meters...

Hehe, taking that away and all my fru kills will drop to 1/10 from Air

[mrfancyp]

I think I know what you are saying which is to model the fru with the same specs as the bushes that they are generally hidden in. Which means that they load like the bushes do rather than loading on their own.

I think it is not so much a problem of different ways of loading models but just that the LOD at 500m for a bush is so much less detailed. Imagine a bush as a bunch of 2d textures stuck together, at distance some of those textures disappear. I guess the only way to change this would be to increase the detail at a distance which would be bad for performance.

I think the same problem existed with the truck MSPs, maybe it was less pronounced though because most of the trucks had camo-paint jobs.

[mattwitt]

I think it is not so much a problem of different ways of loading models but just that the LOD at 500m for a bush is so much less detailed. Imagine a bush as a bunch of 2d textures stuck together, at distance some of those textures disappear. I guess the only way to change this would be to increase the detail at a distance which would be bad for performance.

I think the same problem existed with the truck MSPs, maybe it was less pronounced though because most of the trucks had camo-paint jobs.

Trucks had better paint jobs, and there were more bushes.

[arkwrite]

O I agree, its same when in a plane you can't see any infantry or frus whatso ever and you can barely even see tanks sometimes.

Edited April 19, 2011 by arkwrite

[geckopow]

There are some rendering issues' date=' which make a FRU that is very well hidden from binos view or from 50 meters away, appear very visibly from 500 meters away.[/quote']

Yep i see this often too, FRU is impossible to see with binos at range, yet when i do not use binos, i see something sticking out the bush, looking very much like a fru!

Seems to be simply a LOD/size issue at range? Well its really the bushes that change LOD, making the FRU visible, when it is in fact well hidden, as seen (?) by binos or by being close to the fRU.

[gagsy]

I see frus at a distance but i need binos to identify them( i.e. which side they belong to)...I don't seem to have any trouble doing that.

[Lob12]

yep noticed that too.

bushes doesnt render nice enough at 600ish meters so the box pops out, actually easier to see without aiming in that direction.

[echelon4]

I've heard talk about pilots who fly to a specific alt, (high enough to pop the lod but low enough to make out a fru sized target) and find them all day long.

I've been experimenting with not placing them in hedge lines, but rather behind hard cover and under trees. They are more easily seen but I've found so far they last just a little bit longer. Or at least do not die more quickly then the hedge fru's I place.

Depends on terrain though, sometimes ya gotta go with whats there.

[echelon4]

yep noticed that too.

bushes doesnt render nice enough at 600ish meters so the box pops out, actually easier to see without aiming in that direction.

Thats about the alt that the pilots I've seen doing this use, maybe a tad higher.

[mattwitt]

The problem with trying to place it somewhere else, is that there isn't much cover in the game for inf or for FRU's

[frogdeth]

You're going to have to be specific. I don't even know what you're talking about. I've never heard of am invisible fru.

Really? I had one, once. I sent in a report on it - hasn't happened since. Which is relief because I still remember the chaos that happened when I stumbled onto the secret of the invisible UMS a few years ago.