*sigh* CTD nuciances

[beazil]

Getting a LOT of CTD's lately. Today I've had two in a row, and had a few yesterday. Each is occuring while flying, and both recent ones have been during an RTB.

Not sure what could have possibly changed on my end. Can you confirm that you get automatic reports generated when this occurs still? It would be a load off my mind that you guys already get the information.

Cheers!

Beazil

[AHWULF]

Hmm, our ctd tracker only shows 1 CTD, on 2011-04-25 20:46:35. Unfortunately there is a class of ctds which are not caught by the catcher where the OS kills the app and doesn't give it a chance to check out the problem. I *think* these happen deep in a driver (either video or audio) and the OS just drop kicks the whole app into the bitbucket.

Useful info would be:

OS version

AMD/Intel

video card (I see you have a GTX 470)

video driver version #

audio hardware

audio driver version # (if available)

There do seem to be more issues (that we are able to see) with newer video card's drivers (a lot of 460s as well).

I hate black boxes you have to assume work correctly but can't debug when they don't work. Grrrr...

In most cases a crash goes like this

Catcher waits for crash

App starts up and runs

App crashes

Catcher catches the crash and writes little file

Next online launch uploads file

THe evil ones go like this:

Catcher waits for crash

App starts up and runs

App crashes where the sun don't shine

OS goes OMG! and punts everything.

[beazil]

Thanks Ahwulf!

OS version - Win 7 x64

AMD/Intel - Intel 2600k at stock

video card (I see you have a GTX 470) - Dual 470's in surround, latest official drivers

video driver version # 270 sumthin....

audio hardware - stock realtec

audio driver version # (if available) - dunno, but will check later

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[GOPHUR]

Getting a LOT of CTD's lately. Today I've had two in a row, and had a few yesterday. Each is occuring while flying, and both recent ones have been during an RTB.

Not sure what could have possibly changed on my end. Can you confirm that you get automatic reports generated when this occurs still? It would be a load off my mind that you guys already get the information.

Cheers!

Beazil

I have 2 reported crashes for you for 1.33.4

Only one of those is in our top ten. That one has 22 crashes total.

Edited April 27, 2011 by GOPHUR

[AHWULF]

video card (I see you have a GTX 470) - Dual 470's in surround, latest official drivers

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Dual 470s - man you should be seeing the game 2 days in advance with those. Can you play with just one? I wonder if that config blows Window's mind.

[hdeh]

I'm not sure whether this thread is the right place to post this request, but can you make it so that the personas get unlocked automatically after a CTD? At the moment after every CTD, I have to start the application twice (unless I wait a very long time), because the first time it starts with the persona selection still locked. Starting the game (especially loading vehicle system) takes quite a long time; this makes the CTD just that little bit more annoying.

My squaddies tell me the same - that they have to restart the application twice after a CTD, so it's not just me.

Thanks, I appreciate your efforts!

[AHWULF]

That will go away with the hammers Oliver is smashing the host code with. MRP, CTHL and the personna locked after CTD issues are all symptoms a host design flaw that should go away with the changes in process. It's not a little work and will require a ton of testing but making a lot of progress.

[beazil]

I've also been running beta fraps as well at the same time. I don't know at all if it's related, but I don't *think* I've crashed my game in the past day, and I haven't been running fraps in order to see if I can isolate the cause. So it's nothing but a correlation at this point.

Can't run surround without two video cards Ahwulf. It's a limitation of Nvidia cards because unlike eyefinity ATI cards, each is limited to a maximum of two active outputs atm (unless you have a juggernaught card like the 590 - but that's just two cards on one board), but you kind of want the extra horsepower anyway for most applications.

Oh, blah blah blah blah support crossfire/sli increase rendering speed if u can blah blah blah.

I find it strange that you've only had logs for a couple of ctd's - but you getting SOME information is much more effective than you getting none I suppose.

Is there anything else I can do to help you with this? Thanks guys and S!

[GOPHUR]

I'm not sure whether this thread is the right place to post this request, but can you make it so that the personas get unlocked automatically after a CTD? At the moment after every CTD, I have to start the application twice (unless I wait a very long time), because the first time it starts with the persona selection still locked. Starting the game (especially loading vehicle system) takes quite a long time; this makes the CTD just that little bit more annoying.

My squaddies tell me the same - that they have to restart the application twice after a CTD, so it's not just me.

Thanks, I appreciate your efforts!

Should be fixed in 1.34.

[tuff]

Try an old set of drivers. I switched to an older set and I am not getting ctd's anymore.

I got a GTS 450 and use 260.89 drivers now

[beazil]

Try an old set of drivers. I switched to an older set and I am not getting ctd's anymore.

I got a GTS 450 and use 260.89 drivers now

Roger - thanks for the heads up - I checked this again cause I'm still getting the ctd's.

While we are on the subject of drivers, is there anything you/we can do to get support for increased performance via SLI/Crossfire? (for those of us enjoying dual card configs)

Not trying to turn this into a special requests thread - but it bears asking. Even if it's been asked before - I missed the answer.

Cheers!

B.