Pak 38 unkillable

[legear]

Any suggestions or ideas on this. I dont know if axis are having same issue on the m1 or 6lber, but the PAK 38 is almost unkillable by using AP or HE. I literally put 5-6 rounds, both sides, mid level, high, and low, the atg will deply and then shoot. Does the pak 38 have armor thickness modeled in. It seems highly unreasonable, for a exposed atg crew, get his by any shell, and stay be able to shoot. Very unrealistic. For a matter of fact, if a HE shell landed in a 5 meter radius of the unit, the unit would be knocked out. Is this a bug, or is this intended game play for balance?

[jar644]

I was a Pak38 earlier tonight and died from a Pan at about 300m. Definitely not "unkillable".

[petie]

its same for both sides.

Tier 1 atg models suck.

[Tigger6]

Are you shooting AP at the gun shield? From the front, engage with AP, from the rear with MG and HE.

[legear]

i literally can put a pan 25MM AP into the chest of an 88 gunner, does nothing. I have scored kills on them, but it seems thta you have better chances using your MG, and then sometimes, you dont get the kill, even if they do despawn

[stdyhand]

I rolled into a town a couple days ago with a 3H and shot a French M1 in both infantry guys with my MG rounds and he still managed to setup and kill me frontally with the first shot. I emptied two magazines into the infantry and shot the armored front with 4xAP and 2xHE rounds and never got a kill on him. It only scored a single hit. Once I was dead I could see him undeploying and moving to another location.

I had the drop on him. He was moving across the road which I was camping. I was already setup and waiting. As soon as he came out I began to fire with MG rounds and once he setup I started to use AP and then HE along with the MG rounds. It didn't matter.

It is not the 88 that is the problem. It is the hit or tracking system of the game.

[fxmmauser]

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I play axis and in a number atgs allies wounded the gunner so much that I couldn't shoot but was still alive then I despawned this might explain the reason why some people don't get the kills, I think it has too do with getting hit on the hands or legs with big shrapnel.