Firing RPATs from the prone?

[firebugs]

I stumbled on this today, notice around 0:20 there's a couple shots of soldiers in the prone firing bazookas. Any chance this will be added to wwiiol? I noticed it was a standing/kneeling only thing in the BETA.

Also, I was trained to fire the AT-4 from the prone by the Marine Corps, you just have to fire it in a manner that your feet/legs are not directly behind the tube (if you want to keep the skin on them). I understand that it's not a direct translation from the AT4 to the M9 or Pzschreck, but it operates very similarly.

[DOC]

no plans to add firing RPATS from prone at this stage

[GOPHUR]

Great video. The back blast is much more contained than what most people want to suggest. That'll probably affect how we manage where when this can fire but I don't think we'll go for prone. At minimum that is a game play choice that matches doctrine pretty well.

[chiapet]

yeah panzershreck could be used prone as well, seen that in videos as well.

[je5ter]

Bloody dangerous firing a PIAT from any position other than prone! A 200 foot/Pound spring recoiling I want my whole body behind it.

[jwilly]

In one man use (in the real world, only in emergencies), loading required laying the weapon on the ground or some other stable surface, since it took two hands to unpack, check, arm, insert and connect the rocket. Since loading was done at the point of firing whenever possible, because movement with a round loaded was dangerous, firing from prone was fairly common whenever hard cover wasn't available and there hadn't been time to dig a fighting position from which to fire.

However, it's straightforward that some additional complex modeling and animations would be needed, so even if it were desired it probably couldn't be done in the near term.

Edited August 13, 2011 by jwilly

[firebugs]

Bloody dangerous firing a PIAT from any position other than prone! A 200 foot/Pound spring recoiling I want my whole body behind it.

200 ft/lb isn't that much. For comparison, I much prefer shooting my .50bmg (14,000 ft/lb at muzzle) from a sitting, kneeling, or standing position. It's more of a push/shove that way. Where as from the prone, your shoulder absorbs all of the recoil because you have no where to go-- a sharp kick. Quickly results in a bruise.

[GOPHUR]

Yeah that PIAT presents an interesting problem. DoD modeled theirs fired from the shoulder not prone. Would sure be easier on us if it could be fired prone.

[DOC]

current proposal is the PIAT gets fired prone for true sight picture (default choice) and the other two (zook and schrek) are NOT able to be fired prone

a little differance is a good thing, the PIAT will not have a shoulder fired option which is default for the other two

we're going to experiment with the "from the hip" braced on the top-thigh/pelvis that the VC award winner used in Arnhiem as a less accurate alternative to prone, but this will be PIAT only and will not have a true sight picture of course

subject to change as we learn more about how they work in our code but this is our current direction

[firebugs]

No better way to learn how they were used than by owning one yourself.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=246479509

Honestly I'm tempted...

[GOPHUR]

I'll be in Austin in a couple weeks. I can pick it up for you =]

Just sayin'...