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never been able to replicate this on demand, when we try, it never happens

until we can, we can't fix it, because it has to happen when you are looking at it to figure out why it is happening

we have tried but no one has come up with a way to replicate it on demand

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never been able to replicate this on demand, when we try, it never happens

until we can, we can't fix it, because it has to happen when you are looking at it to figure out why it is happening

we have tried but no one has come up with a way to replicate it on demand

There isn't a way you can look it up as with the explosion/screen shake bug?

Install something that will give a signal when its happening.

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if we could do that to find it, we already would have

you need to understand that "have not been able to replicate on demand" means we don't know what the trigger is, so we can't tell it to tell us when it happens, we just have to wait for it to happen while we are watching it

or we just don't give a damn, that's always a reliable assumption when I read the forums

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Well when you spawn about 15 stugs and driving a mission for about 30 min. You will have it @ least once.

Tanking in this game is been made terrible since the last patches

Starting with the new type of trailers. The older ones you could see impact. Now they fly just through a tank and nothing happens.

since the 1.33 my audio of tanking is bugged. And it takes 1 year to fix it??

Instead of working on new updates you guys are better of with repairing the old ones first before creating new ones.

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There isn't a way you can look it up as with the explosion/screen shake bug?

Install something that will give a signal when its happening.

In 10 years it has never once happened to me. *shrug*

Heck I spent one whole afternoon doing nothing but starting and stopping that damned thing.

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Here's a crazy idea - without understanding how the game works -could it be something to do with the previous vehicle state that the player was in?

E.g. They have a drama in previous vehcile. Spawn stug - issues carry over?

Thats independent of just starting the engine, but dependent on previous engine state?

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Dunno. Could be anything. Until I can replicate it I'll likley never know. But I doubt it is that because it seems to only happen to certain vehicles.

Speaking of, which STUG is the offender? I might have an idea.

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Stug G

Being getting alot more occurances of engine bug

Quite alot now on Spawn in, i can start engine but will not go into gear

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I got engine bugged twice today. I got so fed up I decided to try to replicate this damn bug at the training server, but ironically after hundreds of engine starts and different key combos it didn't happen once. Even when I bashed the keyboard and the mouse ramdomly(monkey testing style) it just didn't happen a single time. So I came to conclusion that it must have to do something with a client and the server communication under a net traffic. Like the server missing a command to start the engine or something a like... I believe the server checking the client command to start the engine before coming back to client and actually starting the engine and thus it should be a possible scenario then?

This is purely guessing, because I'm not really a coder either knowing how this game works. But either way I really believe it's not up to some wrong keycombos(like someone have suggested). Though if somebody could replicate this bug everytime please let us know...

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Has it ever happened in the CRS office or is it reported only by people who play outside of it?

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I've had them happen in a laffy, opel and panzers, most of them were in stug b/g.

About 1/2 of the times it happened when i spawned in and wanted to start engine. The engine just keeps trying to turn on and there is a continuous stream of smoke puffs coming from the back of the tank/truck

You then aren't able to do turn the engine off anymore.

Few days ago i saw another guy have it in a stug g, had to despawn in field.

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It doesn't seem to be the amount of times you press E because in a m10 you turn engine off/on just as much as in the stug but i never had the engine bug in a m10 nor hear anyone have it in one.

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both myself and Gophur (not to mention coder efforts which amount to time I cannot define here) have never had this happen in testing, not even 1 time. In fact, it has never happened to me, period, at all, inside the office, outside the office, anywhere; and I think Gophur is in the same boat

if we could have already fixed this, trust me we would have, we hate you bringing it up again and again but we have not been able to track it down, and we are certain that the reason it happens over and over again to certain users and not to others is user related, it has to be

you could think we just don't care and that's why it isn't fixed if you prefer, but that would not be why it isn't fixed

if you have infromation that is much more specific than "it's still happening" or "it happened to me" then we want to see it, but if not, well we already know that some suffer this issue so it's not helping just saying that you're one of them, ie: some analytical controlled testing results that help define the cause or methodology used to replicate it would help a lot and be very welcome here

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"So I came to conclusion that it must have to do something with a client and the server communication under a net traffic."

I don't think it could have anything to do with server connection. I'd say impossible but I don't believe in impossible.

I would say if you have this a lot then try and replicate it offline. Hell it could be anything. It might also be that you spawn more tanks than I do in a given week but like you said, go try and find it and you can't.

Very annoying to be sure.

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I have never heard it in my own tank, but i know i have had it because someone else has told me about this. So as far as i understand you can't replicate it by your self you need someone watching you.

With out knowing to much about the code and all it seems like it can be traced to the client sending bad information to the server. Because the client think the engine is off, however the server do not.

DOC: I don't think very many is out to get you or any other RAT, this is not the reason why we complain and keep brining this stuff up. Most of us just wish it could be fixed and are trying to help out our we seek information about any progress. I am sure you understand that some might ask every now and then if you are any closer to fixing a known problem. From your first post i think you read the forums a bit to hearse or maybe put to much faith in the words of the trolls.

Most of us are not like that. Many off us have been playing this game for a loge while and put much in to it, it is only to be expected that we will be more vocal that the normal WoW player and that we wish to be kept to speed. Now if anyone think you guys don't give a damn about they game they are just pure stupid, one do not keep something running for ten years if one do not care about it. Atleast not the way you guys run the game.

So please don't see every thing as an attack, because it i not.

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"So I came to conclusion that it must have to do something with a client and the server communication under a net traffic."

I don't think it could have anything to do with server connection. I'd say impossible but I don't believe in impossible.

I would say if you have this a lot then try and replicate it offline. Hell it could be anything. It might also be that you spawn more tanks than I do in a given week but like you said, go try and find it and you can't.

Very annoying to be sure.

Yeah damn annoying and the most strangest part is there was a time when it didn't happen to me for months(if i would dare to say) and I'm a heavy user of Stugs and they are having this symptom most commonly. Basically I don't play anything else than them tbh(except Tiggy). But now like week or two I've had this bug even 3 times in a day and you can tell it makes your head turn in red when you've drove like 30+ minutes easily. It simply makes you quit if you've faced this event 3 times a row.

And yeah it could be anything and that was just my guess for a missing part, since i would bet my head that it has nothing to do with pressing particular keys. Since when it have happened it have been completely different scenario everytime. Sometimes just pressing engine key and *PUFF* and sometimes doing something at same time under pressure and *PUFF*... Ofcourse this is pretty much based on my own perception(which is I afraid all I had) that there's no consistency how these events happen.

I tried to replicate this bug on the training server, but like I told no luck. Perhaps you would find the missing part at the campaign server, but I dunno how cool that would be to turn Stugs engines on and off at crowded places.

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Ok. Had enough of your whining and no testing.

First result: It is possible to get it offline. So scratch that server-client communication and that somebody has to watch you nonsense.

Continuing my testing.

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I had an "engine bug" scenario in a DAC but never in a Stug I will admit.

What questions should you want to ask if it happened to you?

What unit where you?

What where the circumstances?

Spawned in/starting engine after stop?

Where where you?

Where you under fire?

Using Joystick/mouse/Keyboard*

*delete as appropiate.

What had you been playing previously (unit etc)

How many times has it happened to you that week?

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Ok. Had enough of your whining and no testing.

First result: It is possible to get it offline. So scratch that server-client communication and that somebody has to watch you nonsense.

Continuing my testing.

Managed to repeat it OFFLINE. Dont know yet exactly how. Once you get it seems like you have to restart the game to get it again. Testing Stug G btw.

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And again. 4 times I started the offline mode, 4 times I managed to get it. Still cant figure out whats the trigger. Running out of time today.

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Bingo? Able to replicate at will: Fast pressing the engine start mapped button on my joypad AND fast pressing engine start mapped button on my keyboard at the same time. No restart of game needed.

Edit: Works for every vehicle.

Edit 2: Looks like only 2 presses of each button in fast sequence are needed.

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