Mission creation bug?

[valkor]

I have been going around today, trying to do a couple of things, but got stopped when i realised that in Navy, Army and Airforce, I can't make any missions.

For Navy I would understand, it's rank 1 or something, but army is rank 3 and airforce rank 4.

Just a bit annoying, when I try to make a mission of my own to go take an FB because I was bored, and the game claimed I couldn't make the mission.

Know I used to be able to make missions..

[company0]

I have been going around today, trying to do a couple of things, but got stopped when i realised that in Navy, Army and Airforce, I can't make any missions.

For Navy I would understand, it's rank 1 or something, but army is rank 3 and airforce rank 4.

Just a bit annoying, when I try to make a mission of my own to go take an FB because I was bored, and the game claimed I couldn't make the mission.

Know I used to be able to make missions..

Are you on a trial account?

[valkor]

No, i paid for a 6 month subscription on my account...

Edited November 11, 2011 by valkor

[company0]

No' date=' i paid for a year subscription on my account...[/quote']

Hmm. Did it claim specifically why you couldn't make a mission? Axis, American, British or French?

[valkor]

Hmm. Did it claim specifically why you couldn't make a mission? Axis' date=' American, British or French?[/quote']

I was on axis at the time, it just said that I don't have the rank to do so, like it would if i was still requit rank.

[petie]

I think its rank 5

They keep chaning it, at 1 point i could create mission using a trial account at rank 0

[GOPHUR]

Mission posting starts at the NCO ranks. This is level 6. This had been broken but was fixed with the server maintenance this week.

I'm open to discussion in changing this if necessary but it has proven to be a nice perk and goal achievement mechanism as well as reduce the number of unnecessary missions.

[jackybunne]

For me, the big goal in the game was just to rank enough to get the sniper, it's my favorite class in the game.

Un-necessary mission? Some players want to rank up as fast as they can, to do so though, they normally need to be able to make their own mission, otherwise they have to bug someone els to set it up for them.

Or for those with second accounts, see a depo that no one has a spawn to, I would want to set up a mission from that spawn to make sure it's not getting capped. Montfaucon is one that has bugged me about this too as most will think "get in town" whilst the oposing forces go up onto the air field and capture the AB and AF there without resistance...

Just think it should be quite so high, like, rank 3 or something would be ok, I think.

Edit: Some players, like myself, like to go out and bust FBs when they are bored or what ever, but at the level you can grab a sapper, you can't make a mission...

Edited November 12, 2011 by jackybunne

[company0]

Mission posting starts at the NCO ranks. This is level 6. This had been broken but was fixed with the server maintenance this week.

I'm open to discussion in changing this if necessary but it has proven to be a nice perk and goal achievement mechanism as well as reduce the number of unnecessary missions.

Drop it down to rank 3, until CRS gets the Battle Tab out. Otherwise its a bit too restricting in limiting people from spawning in.

Edited November 12, 2011 by COMPANY0

[salihe66]

Mission posting starts at the NCO ranks. This is level 6. This had been broken but was fixed with the server maintenance this week.

I'm open to discussion in changing this if necessary but it has proven to be a nice perk and goal achievement mechanism as well as reduce the number of unnecessary missions.

I agree that rank 6 does seem a bit too excessive a requirement. Once a person hits rank 3, it implies they know what they're doing to a certain extent, and it also shows they're dedicated enough to get that far.

At the same time, I'm not overly fond of the idea of limiting it at all. One side effect is that it pretty much eliminates anyone taking initiative if they're below a certain rank. A couple days ago, I wanted to start a mission to bomb a bridge, to grind up some rank points in the AF. I was unable to myself, so I had to get Xoom to make the mission, then pass it off to me. People will find ways to get around a rank restriction, as I did, so all it will likely serve is to inconvenience people, at best, and discourage people from taking initiative for things like blowing FBs, etc., at worst. When we're setting up for AOs, as well, and I'm calling for people to start making missions and drive FRUs out, I don't want to have to worry that however many wouldn't be able to, despite how willing they might be.

Edited November 12, 2011 by salihe66

[docattak]

I am totally furious by the decision to raise the rank to level 6 to create missions. I often can only get online during the daytime in UK and unless I post a mission there is none there to fly French which is my preferred option. Am I now, after years of posting missions, suddenly too irresponsible to be allowed to do this. This game is now a waste of time for me and I am disgusted.

Why did I pay all that money and play for a massive number of hours to get myself to a position where I could post missions only to find that I now cannot fly french at the times I am most often available. My missions often allowed others to fly french when otherwise there would have been none for them.

I hope, but don't expect to get, a response from the RATS for this unwarranted change. Is this the reward for having a premium account and being a member since 2004? Removing the ability to do something major that you have done for years is like giving a major demotion for loyal service and is a big kick in the teeth!

UPDATE : That's the 4th time I've logged on in past 2 days and no french Air missions so I logged off again - what a waste of time - it won't be long before I become an ex-wwiionline member - a pity my subscription runs until next summer.

Edited November 13, 2011 by docattak

[rwkeen]

A few years back before this bug appeared having Rank 6 to post missions wasn't too much of an issue (appart from in the naval game), as there where always plenty of people around with that rank and at worst all you had to do was ask on the appropriate chat channel and someone would post a mission for you.

However, given the current playerbase this is a BIG issue. Many of the people who have left over the last couple of years have been the veteran players, and thus the general rank level across the player base has decreased.

There are now several times of the day where fining someone with the rank to post in certain branches will be impossible. The Navy will really suffer, so wil the French Airforce.

Whilst gaining rank to post certainly was something to aim for in the old days, days when if you didn't have it, you knew someone who did could post a mission for you. However thats not what todays game is like.

Therefore reducing rank posting is essential otherwise you are going to stop players at certain times of the day from playing parts of the game.

A compromise would be setting it to rank 2 or 3.

Please Rats, can you reconsider this.

!S MW.

[mile]

at least drop it down for naval. its so hard to rank up there, so any brige repair or out of the way FB to take out with a naval person was a neat way to scrape a few naval points up.

or can't you just have it so if no missions are posted anyone can create the first? that would stop the unecessary mission thing.

[ratatosk]

I posted a thread about other stuff that seems to have silently changed and now I'm wondering if it also involves things that have been "broken" for quite a while? At any rate, my recollection was that in the past, E5 unlocked all infantry weapons and gave you mission privileges, the only thing that happened at E6 was infantry got binoculars.

I am pretty sure I am right about this GOPHUR, as I remember when I hit E5, I applied to join axis HC, then withdrew my application when I said to myself "dude, you've never even made a mission, how you gonna be HC?" Since I have seen a lot of dripping wet nuubs show up in HC on both sides over the past year or so, I assumed that mission creation had become wide open so that this kind of absurdity didn't occur.

If rank entitlements are under review, please reconsider the E7 requirement for the sniper rifle. It seems ridiculous that you have to reach that level to use a common battle rifle with a low power scope when you already have access to DDs, heavy tanks, and whatever the current tier hot fighter is.

[delems]

Many of us ranked up and had to ask for people to make missions. Yes, it is limiting to some extent and frustrating. But, on the other hand it allows new folks to learn the game and join existing missions and not worry about creating their own. One compromise might be to allow all personas to create missions once any persona attains rank 6; this way Navy and Air won't be so hard.

Possibly rank 6 is a bit high. idk, I ranked up quickly, but then I spent a lot of time guarding and earning 1 rank point every minute. Also, as sapper, bust quiet FBs, repair bridges and destroy bridges are great ways to gain rank quickly. And, with caps at 20 points, it isn't that hard to gain rank anymore imo.

[docattak]

There's a big difference between guarding for points and flying fighters - no offence but every point takes skill and not just waiting for the time to pass. The main point is that, for example, there are no french air missions for a lot of the day so anyony trying to fly french below level 6 can't fly - especially frustrating if you have been setting up the missions for a long time and you're suddenly deprived of that ability. I was level 9 in axis army under another name year's ago and lost most of that after being away for a while. Having changed to flying and got to level 5 I'm rather p****d off with logging on during the daytime and having to log off again - what am I paying for???

[fxmmauser]

Mission creation should have no rank at all or maybe 2 at least there are so many times that fb's, cps are lost due to no mission and I see so many players getting killed just because AB is camped if in that case there was a misson for a cp it probably would impact positively those players.

As said above on low pop or on location with lots of noobs or free trials the game really suffers from this.

[aertemis]

bump

Would be really nice to get this adjusted for low pop times, at the least. It sucks when a total of 5 guys are on to fly, and only one can make a mission, and the other four are screwed if he has to leave.

[ezrelay]

Didnt think there was a log jam for fly guys posting just infantry and armor. I could see maybe raising the ground pounding ranks which probably still wouldnt clean up the missions screen one bit. In fact I know it wont. But raising the ranks for Air and especially Naval doesnt make any sense at all.

So the question is. Can different branches have different ranks needed to post or is it straight across the board?

Still a firm believer we should have automated defense missions apon placement of the AO where players can spawn in VIA the ingame map. Click the spawn facility and the selection list appears. Choose your weapon and spawn in. Very new player friendly and would help out when/if the population gets a bit low.The OIC in charge becomes the ML'er for those missions.

All other missions would be posted as they are now. That would clean up the mission selction list which is outta hand at times and help NEW players get ingame quicker with out having to sift though a large liste of repreated missions. Especially on defense.

[romzburg]

A while back I joined a squad that was mainly a Navy infantry squad. We played almost exclusively in the north, in the Zeelands, which most players and HC avoided.

I had rank in the Army, but not Navy.

I can't tell you how many times I would see enemy activity reported on a town with only Navy, and I would try to spawn in to either recon, or prevent a spawnable from being capped, and I couldn't because I had no mission posting ability. (I played all different hours, and often I was the only member of my squad, so no help from them.)

Spamming the side chat channels almost never brought anyone to make a mission for me.

I can't tell you how many times I had to sit there and watch helplessly as some unopposed enemy capped a spawn.

I can't tell you how many times I logged off in disgust.

We are *paying* money to play a *game*, and the game mechanics should not include stuff like this.

You want rank-restrict some stuff, fine, but don't do that to missions, because it doesn't affect *how* newer players play, it affects *whether* newer players play.

And it is *never* good to prevent players from even playing the game, especially newer players.

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motormouth:

Much as Romzy's posting style can give me headaches (and the fact that he's "NEVAR WRONG!!"), that post pretty much nails it on the head.

sgtchief:

romz you['re] my damn hero

sydney:

Ya know, at first Romsburg, you rubbed me the wrong way and I wasn't a fan. But over the past 12 months, you have really grown on me. You're precise, well spoken and although you are sometimes a little harsh, you are most often correct and in proper context with your responses.

irelandeb:

indeed he's one of the few voices of common sense on these forums

jw:

If you're going to argue with Romz, do your homework before you post. He gets it, and you can't teach common sense, you have to be born with it.

pete, linc & julie:

I can't say [any]thing else [than] that the ban was justified considering that you have an 'impressive' TOS history....

owilde:

The only thing worse than being talked about is *not* being talked about.

Edited November 23, 2011 by romzburg