#6209 Player icons not appearing on map

[VodkaAce]

Quite a regular bug for me and for most of the players I fly with in my squad.

Sometimes when on a mission 1 or more than one of the player icons are not showing up on the mission. Sometimes it happens when you spawn in or sometimes to disappear during flight. And the players are not KIA they are still flying around, but icons have just disappeared.

Edited January 4, 2012 by VodkaAce

[delems]

I see this somewhat often on infantry missions. I see a guy running around next to me, but it is a complete surprise to me as I don't see him on map (mini or big). Usually they never appear, but that just maybe that I don't really keep track. On at least one occasion, when he re-spawned back into the mission after dying I could see him.

[GOPHUR]

Ticketed.

Is there anything in particular about these guys or does it seem random?

[wockawocka]

This can be reproduced when getting into the same state as ticket:

#6202 mission invalid - submission denied

(posted full description in #6209, but in short meaning: If you recently switched brigade/country and have that long wait before spawning in, you will be gone from map, and others will not see you on map AND you will not be able to place icons on map)

There is a VERY simple fix.

RTB, and join the same mission.

Now people can see you, and you can see marks.

BUT

Then another small bug resides:

You can then not post $miss

Brigade will show, but not the name of the Mission Leader

I have reported this earlier, but no ticket, so now we have two tickets at least

[VodkaAce]

This can be reproduced when getting into the same state as ticket:

#6202 mission invalid - submission denied

(posted full description in #6209, but in short meaning: If you recently switched brigade/country and have that long wait before spawning in, you will be gone from map, and others will not see you on map AND you will not be able to place icons on map)

There is a VERY simple fix.

RTB, and join the same mission.

Now people can see you, and you can see marks.

BUT

Then another small bug resides:

You can then not post $miss

Brigade will show, but not the name of the Mission Leader

I have reported this earlier, but no ticket, so now we have two tickets at least

You misunderstand.

We are all on the same mission. Icons are just not showing up for some people on that mission. Does not matter if it's squaddies or just other people on mission.

It's completely random Gophur. Usually only a few player icons on map are mission but I've had up to 5 disappear at times. This seems to be only happening within the past month for us

[wockawocka]

Are you sure this is not only due to a low visibility limit?

If so, then this would only happen at locations with a lot of infantry.

I have it at low, and many player icons not visible now.

But still if some of my squad mates have had that long delay in spawning (when changing brigades) then they are NOT visible at map at all, and get all kinds of strange behaviour.

I am talking about making a post on squad chat: Come in here on fb defence, and when they get there (rather few at fb) I can not see my squaddies on map if they get delayed.

In highly congested towns people disappear all the time, but because of my limit set low.

[VodkaAce]

Are you sure this is not only due to a low visibility limit?

If so, then this would only happen at locations with a lot of infantry.

I have it at low, and many player icons not visible now.

But still if some of my squad mates have had that long delay in spawning (when changing brigades) then they are NOT visible at map at all, and get all kinds of strange behaviour.

I am talking about making a post on squad chat: Come in here on fb defence, and when they get there (rather few at fb) I can not see my squaddies on map if they get delayed.

In highly congested towns people disappear all the time, but because of my limit set low.

I don't think that's it. I have my player visibility set to high.

And I spend 90% of my time flying in game. So a lot of us are flying back far away from the AO's at times when forming up.

I've noticed the player visibility thing in the past but this is different.

[delems]

Yep, on high also and was at a FB, no more than a couple defenders and the probable 5 to 10 attackers, so very few people in area. Don't recall any air or vehicles there either. I.e. it can happen in low pop areas.

[wockawocka]

Maybe we talk past each other

Can all unite around the observation that this happens when switching brigades?

You switch brigade/country, and a long delay starts before spawning in.

WHEN you get in, people do not see you on map.

Maybe this is more common on the allied side, because then a switch between countries takes place, and that ALWAYS gives this bug (and bug #6202). But on axis side it could be (not sure, never played axis) that when switching from infantry/tank to air gives the bug?

Anyway. A RTB solves most bugs when this happens. And the person missing on map must RTB, not the one that do not see map icons.

[nobipure]

Like OP and Delems, I am seeing this randomly and it does not seem associated with switching Bdes OR with Vis limit.

Had squaddies on a mission walking up to a town and couldn't see one members tag on map or minimap. Verified with squaddies on TS and they could not see him either, he could see all of us. He respawned and we could see him...

[gagsy]

Had this as inf a few times and one time I couldn't mark the map as well.

[VodkaAce]

Maybe we talk past each other

Can all unite around the observation that this happens when switching brigades?

You switch brigade/country, and a long delay starts before spawning in.

WHEN you get in, people do not see you on map.

Maybe this is more common on the allied side, because then a switch between countries takes place, and that ALWAYS gives this bug (and bug #6202). But on axis side it could be (not sure, never played axis) that when switching from infantry/tank to air gives the bug?

Anyway. A RTB solves most bugs when this happens. And the person missing on map must RTB, not the one that do not see map icons.

has nothing to do with switching brigades or respawning in etc.

It's just completely random and is something new. It appears to be a bug. Literally everyone I fly with has this happen to them. It's wide spread

[Hinfoos]

yep, random.. see it oftern when still standing on the af.

join first wait for others to come.

then you maybe only see 1 icon on a friendly plane around you but you are 4-5 planes standing there.

[rote7]

Ack, same bug here. Maybe it is related that sometimes it takes a few minutes for squaddies to appear in the squad online overview. But even then there is no icon for that player on the map.

[Sid49]

i have seen the same thing and even experienced it myself but if you look at the squad tab (If your in a squad) those players will show as offline and will be unable to mark the map or deploy FRU's because they are not on any mission

I am much more concerned about the invisible inf that have started to Appear(No pun intended)

I run into a cp and its clear then all of a sudden you see a muzzle flash in front of you no inf no weapon just a muzzle flash and then you die !!!

[uglyboy]

The other day i saw the same green tag guy, for about 2 hours not showing up on map, scared the hell out of me in cps when i could hear him coming but not see him on map i also reported it at the time, it was always him.

[sbuzzard]

get this too. random. everyone I know is getting it.

I even had one situation where my squad mate was sitting on the field next to me on the same mission and not only did he not show on the map...but the squad tab which shows who in your squad is in game....only showed me.

weird stuff.

any progress update on this one?

[GOPHUR]

i have seen the same thing and even experienced it myself but if you look at the squad tab (If your in a squad) those players will show as offline and will be unable to mark the map or deploy FRU's because they are not on any mission

I am much more concerned about the invisible inf that have started to Appear(No pun intended)

I run into a cp and its clear then all of a sudden you see a muzzle flash in front of you no inf no weapon just a muzzle flash and then you die !!!

Ahh!

Need to double check that. Ask them next time you don;t see them...

Could def be related.

[omar67]

This happens to me all the time. In one instance, the map icons of two people on the same air mission were stationary over town. They didn't update/move until they respawned and flew to within 5Km of my position. As soon as those two rtb'd and were out of that approximate 5Km range, their icons immediately moved to the town and were stationary. One of them logged and another persons icon started doing this. Friendly, same mission icons also flash on and off on my map for extended periods of time.

Now as DOC clearly stated in these forums that NOTHING changes unintentionally unless the code for it is specifically and intentionally changed, what change was being attempted to map icons that caused this bug?

Edited January 10, 2012 by omar67

[ohanselo]

same here, Infantry on map dont show up, not even in the mission list. It is not a Visible player limit issue. it does happen after a long loading time though or after being in a long mission/switiching mission. that is for sure for me atleast. This may be related to the popular FRU bug we have been getting lately.

[mika82]

Just had this. But instead of just not seeing icons on the map I didn't see one single unit on the ground while flying. The world was completely empty and the "mission invalid-submission denied" was present also. Otherwise the game worked perfectly. Spawn loading time was just a few seconds and didn't see any other glitches.

Edit: Oh yeah...And when I despawned my chatbox filled from announcements that this-and-this person has joined lagus and they all have joined the squad ages ago.

Edited January 12, 2012 by mika82

[GOPHUR]

The mission issues should be fixed with today's host patch. Please let me know the status of these issues over the weekend.

[coda]

Ticketed.

Is there anything in particular about these guys or does it seem random?

Happens to me 100% of the time if I get a "Connection to Host reestablished message"

[GOPHUR]

Happens to me 100% of the time if I get a "Connection to Host reestablished message"

What about after the patch on Friday afternoon?

[DOC]

testing on live currently, player icons appear to be working but still not sure if this is in "all cases" ... more to come