#6242 - CSR not recording INF kills

[pbfarmer]

bugger

yes I see this too (no kills recorded - bagged 2 EI - but it is properly adjusting my K/D) and recording KIA not as RTB

partial fix

bugger

keep reporting please

Almost midnight, 15 January, killed 1 4G and 5 ei in the last sortie. Only got credit for the 4G, no ei credit and K/D doesn't reflect ei killed. I was killed and the death was recorded properly. CSR is broke in this very important aspect of the game. It has been a week and nothing positive has happened. Why not just stop the game till you get this fixed?? Will you be able to go in and give back all the ei credit and readjust the K/D????

[DOC]

We don't know what we can do yet about the database errors after we get this fixed. When it is fixed, and it has the highest priority we can give it right now ... we'll see what we can do about the "lost kills" then.

[GOPHUR]

Are captures recording?

[delems]

Yes, captures are working, at least for me and many others that I see by stats.

However, while I like stats, I think your P1 should be getting mac users to be able to log on. It's one thing to have bugs, it's far worse when you can't even log on to experience the bugs.

[pbfarmer]

We don't know what we can do yet about the database errors after we get this fixed. When it is fixed' date=' and it has the highest priority we can give it right now ... we'll see what we can do about the "lost kills" then.[/quote']

Well as of 1705 EST, 16 Jan, I have 54 ei kills that were not recorded in stats (CSR). My K/D has fallen like a stone. CSR need to figure how how to fix the K/D when and if they fix the ei recording problem. Personally, I don't see much point playing when ei kills don't count? Maybe its me, others are playing and some are oblivious to the bug. I guess ignorance is bliss? lol

[DOC]

oh we agree, there's no need to keep saying it, there isn't any way in hell we don't agree this is bad or that we think this is anything less than the highest priority for players

what exactly we do about the "lost kills" is open to debate as always, my prediction is that what we can do will not be as simple as just choosing what we'd like to do (or you would like us to do) or what might be the ideal choice; in reality we'll be limited by things that make some of those choices impossible

we're not saying yet because until we fix it, we won't know what those choices are

[murf64]

We don't know what we can do yet about the database errors after we get this fixed. When it is fixed' date=' and it has the highest priority we can give it right now ... we'll see what we can do about the "lost kills" then.[/quote']

Fix CS&R so it is correct going forward most important.

Fixing missions that happened while it was broken....wayyyyyy down on the priority list IMO.

People that cared about their stats should not have been playing IMO. People that didn't care and played will still not care.

People who care about stats and still played? Not the brightest bulbs methinks.

Edited January 17, 2012 by murf64

[ratatosk]

People who care about stats and still played? Not the brightest bulbs methinks.

Sir, that comment would only have made sense if playing was free. The inf kill bug apparently surfaced on Jan 7 and my calendar says it is Jan 16. It was the final 1.34 straw for me and my sub will lapse at midnight tomorrow and I confirmed that decision tonight when I got a 'host is reconnecting' which is something that I thought was fixed several days ago. I'll check back in 30 days to see if things seem to be back to normal, but I'm not going to pay them in the interim.

I am not obsessed with stats, but for anyone at max rank, it's a major feature if only to see who you killed, etc. I am sure that you know that, but please do not just dismiss anyone who has continued to play as a fool.

[tayvl]

Fix CS&R so it is correct going forward most important.

Fixing missions that happened while it was broken....wayyyyyy down on the priority list IMO.

People that cared about their stats should not have been playing IMO. People that didn't care and played will still not care.

People who care about stats and still played? Not the brightest bulbs methinks.

Why do you assume that "caring about stats" means "living and dying for stats"?

I care about stats, but still play the game because it's fun and I like to mess up the enemy's plans. Caring about stats doesn't mean that they're the only thing we care about. Now who's not the brightest bulb on the tree...

[fearny]

I'm losing stats too here, massively.

Few are recorded, most aren't.

[ordoban]

Two more examples:

11 kills before killed, but neither killer shown nor killed ei, only 12 damages:

http://csr.wwiionline.com/scripts/services/persona/sortie.jsp?sid=1372427&pid=759863&page=1

11 kills too, 5 shown, 6 kills missing, at least one was a tank as far as I remember. But 61 damages?

http://csr.wwiionline.com/scripts/services/persona/sortie.jsp?sid=1371374&pid=759863&page=1

[murf64]

Why do you assume that "caring about stats" means "living and dying for stats"?

I care about stats, but still play the game because it's fun and I like to mess up the enemy's plans. Caring about stats doesn't mean that they're the only thing we care about. Now who's not the brightest bulb on the tree...

My stats still reflect the '110' bug from many years ago. There was a short period (and it was pretty short) where each kill counted 110 times against you. If you killed someone, it counted 110 for you. When CRS fixed it, one got left out...a mission where I killed a 38t and where it killed me in my brit 2 pounder. You can still see it in my stats...my 2 pounder stats look 'off' from the rest and my K/D is definitely lower because of this.

Now, admittedly, I did try to take advantage of the bug because I tend to kill more than I die...but when it was cleaned up that 1 mission remained. I sucked it up....thems the breaks. I played when stats were broken...I took my chances.

Now, this bug has been around a loooooonnggg time (about 2 weeks now) with many people, including me, biatching about it continuously. If you really cared about your stats, you did not play with your main stat-ho acct. If you DID...and you EXPECT CRS will be able to/will retroactively fix...then you are (not a bright bulb).

My main concern is I don't think the Rats/DOC understand how important stats are to some people...and a sizeable minority at that. Therefore, it seems like it is just one of those things to be done...sometime...when you can get around to it. I just want to se eit fixed so I can play again.

I am a big fanboi about this game but if no stats...no play. My yearly subscription is up in Feb...and if no stats...no renew until it gets fixed. There is no 'game' here. Sides are allowed to be unbalanced. Skill, dedication etc mean squat for 'winning'...only that you play for the overpopped side matters for winning. Therefore...the game *IS* the stats. No stats means game is 100% broken.

I don't think the Rats understand this.

Edited January 17, 2012 by murf64

[maurino]

I don't care about stats...but I do care about not being able to see who I killed. Especially after I get killed, then rush back for some revenge, or to recap. I really miss that ability to verify if I got the guy who killed me. I miss being able to go back later and see who I've been fighting against.

C'mon guys, lite a fire under it. This needs to be fixed two weeks ago.

[GOPHUR]

Should be fixed with the update this morning. Can anyone confirm?

[binky]

Looking good after update as far as inf kills.

Something wonky with damages though.

Edited January 18, 2012 by binky

[pbfarmer]

EI kills are now recording! Almost two weeks to fix and K/D took a big hit, now what about the credit for the 57 ei that I lost?? Is there any way to go back and get the credit?

[DOC]

not known yet, mauybe all that can be done is we wipe the entire record, deaths included, still looking at this for a solution

[GOPHUR]

Added #6257 to review missing kills and see if we have to rollback or have other options.