What's with 90+ second side lock?

[delems]

Never seen this in all my years here... especially when I get into the game and find the SD is no more than a few seconds.

[B2K]

Used to be you were locked onto 1 side for X mins after spawning the first time. In theory to prevent side hopping........

if it's not that one side is out #'ing the other really badly

Edited March 12, 2015 by b2k

[gsc]

Been like that for last 7+ days - even when no SD / balanced first log in "On leave for 1min 48seconds"

[DOC]

If populations continue to be of a gangbang level imbalance we'll likely increase it next campaign in order to alleviate logging into the side that is doing the gangbanging ... at least to some degree.

We don't have any other tools to employ against this and listen up ... this gangbang thing is going to cost everyone the game FOREVER if we cannot contain it at least a little.

[Jsilec]

If populations continue to be of a gangbang level imbalance we'll likely increase it next campaign in order to alleviate logging into the side that is doing the gangbanging ... at least to some degree.

We don't have any other tools to employ against this and listen up ... this gangbang thing is going to cost everyone the game FOREVER if we cannot contain it at least a little.

I think unfortunately some want the forever part to happen ...also hope that high pop doesnt have to suffer higher then average spawn delay because of this

Edited March 13, 2015 by Jsilec

[gsc]

I think unfortunately some want the forever part to happen ...also hope that high pop doesnt have to suffer higher then average spawn delay because of this

...just for the constant pissing and moaning i hope it does - srysly

[Jsilec]

...just for the constant pissing and moaning i hope it does - srysly

Well problems in lowpop usually filter down to every other timezone so any tinkering with spawn delay which doesnt even seem to work proper in lowpop will usually lead to it crushing any primetime overpop....if only the players in lowpop would actually fix thiis bs on their own i guess the nerf bat wouldnt have to be swung would it gsc?

[gsc]

Well problems in lowpop usually filter down to every other timezone so any tinkering with spawn delay which doesnt even seem to work proper in lowpop will usually lead to it crushing any primetime overpop....if only the players in lowpop would actually fix thiis bs on their own i guess the nerf bat wouldnt have to be swung would it gsc?

And it's up to the players actually logging in to fix the problem for the ones that don't unless they want to get "punished" for having paid to log in in the first place, now that's fair now, is it?

That aside - being called "Gangbanger" for logging in after having paid $17.99 is sorta even below someone else calling F2P "Freeloaders"...fyi

[Jsilec]

And it's up to the players actually logging in to fix the problem for the ones that don't unless they want to get "punished" for having paid to log in in the first place, now that's fair now, is it?

That aside - being called "Gangbanger" for logging in after having paid $17.99 is sorta even below someone else calling F2P "Freeloaders"...fyi

dont act like is the first time the nerf bat will swing or were you not around for rdp wars?....the game surviving is more important than a crew who enjoys wrecking a map in a few hours of extreme lowpop....swap some guys to the side thats defending with a handful and join their hc would be a better solution but some cant see past the win at all costs attitude....fight each other ffs instead of "gangbanging" lol....thats actually a good squad name

[gsc]

dont act like is the first time the nerf bat will swing or were you not around for rdp wars?....the game surviving is more important than a crew who enjoys wrecking a map in a few hours of extreme lowpop....swap some guys to the side thats defending with a handful and join their hc would be a better solution but some cant see past the win at all costs attitude....fight each other ffs instead of "gangbanging" lol....thats actually a good squad name

And how would one / I do that...take them by the hand, begging them go switch to the other side so the sides are balanced? Force them? What? How?

Most of the time we had just regulars on cept for the odd stray here and there - we're even minus some so called "regulars" who switched allied this camp...

Without trying to sound unreasonable here i will say that we are punishing the customers actually using the service they have paid for on the grounds of the customers not using the service at the same time being disadvantaged for not doing so based on time differences what with the earth round and all that

Remember TZ3 was low-pop but fine for 11 days until Grobb and Oost were taken one Monday morning - WBS was still in effect as well so no excuse there either - then one side logged the other didnt, now the side which didn't log is collectively classified as "Gangbangers" and "punished" - the expectation that the "punishment" meted out will also pertain to the other sides overpop as well is not really too far-fetched, is it?

We will see...

[delems]

Maps seem to always end by one side deciding to stop logging in. It's just the allies stop logging in a lot more often than axis.

Been here a long time, when axis get on roll, allies quit and map moves W fast. When allies get on a roll, axis keep defending and map rolls East slowly - just a fact. As to how come, no idea, axis just don't give up as much it seems.

Until the last 5 maps - my map record was 3-16. But I didn't stop logging in or quit.

Finally, I'd like to know how allies won 6 in a row if tz3 is so lopsided, where did all those allied players go?

Edited March 13, 2015 by delems

[Jsilec]

Oost and grobb surrendered to axis last night i not sure how those 2 towns changed the tide of the map if they were still allied yesterday.....i know some map movers like marty and dcoy went axis after the 6 map wins in a row...marty got tired of shooting AI and came back allied sometime ago and he just rejoined ahc which should help things a bit.....i didnt play much during those 6 maps but AEF went axis to help out....honestly still dont regret it i enjoyed our time as grey monsters....sometimes it takes players switching things up for the better of the game

[gsc]

Oost and grobb surrendered to axis last night i not sure how those 2 towns changed the tide of the map if they were still allied yesterday.....

10 days after camp 111 started - Oost and Grobb were capped by us after those flags had been attrited - pop was balanced - once Oost was done the blue side logged and the roll started cos red didnt log - 11 days in, not yesterday...until those 2 caps map even in tz3 was, as i said - low-pop but balanced huh, and WBS was also still in effect what with the re-activated accounts and all but bam - blue side gone - sedan gone - S cut and all within 4h and we're the "Gangbangers"...

Edited March 14, 2015 by gsc

[Jsilec]

11 days after camp 111 started - Oost and Grobb were capped by us after those flags had been attrited - pop was balanced - once Oost was done the blue side logged and the roll started cos red didnt log - 11 days in' date=' not yesterday...[/quote']

Ok and they were recapped by us on saturday not sure what that had to do with the campaign?.......would you like me to post bagirs video of oost falling to us?

[gsc]

Ok and they were recapped by us on saturday not sure what that had to do with the campaign?.......would you like me to post bagirs video of oost falling to us?

Read the rest of the post please - March 2 was the first time TZ3 "rolled" anything after it having been balanced for 10 days - since then TZ3 was just that for the NEXT 10 days until today - before that it was see-sawing back and forth, no rolls nothing - so what changed all of a sudden after both towns fell which, as lob said, were "honest" victories?

What changed from that point onwards on allied side so dramatically and why is axis the game-breaker now, again? Because we kept playing for the next 10 days following March 2nd? Or what...

[Jsilec]

Read the rest of the post please - March 2 was the first time TZ3 "rolled" anything after it having been balanced for 10 days - since then TZ3 was just that for the NEXT 10 days until today - before that it was see-sawing back and forth, no rolls nothing - so what changed all of a sudden after both towns fell which, as lob said, were "honest" victories?

What changed from that point onwards on allied side so dramatically and why is axis the game-breaker now, again? Because we kept playing for the next 10 days following March 2nd? Or what...

According to some who play lowpop like matamor lowpop was barely holding on....i can post a video from the first 2 weeks of this map with mata and 1 other guy trying to hold a town between the 2 of them against alot more....not sure what your point is here but i doubt welcome back soldiers will save lowpop

[Jsilec]

wjutgH44T_A

Early in the map

[gsc]

According to some who play lowpop like matamor lowpop was barely holding on....i can post a video from the first 2 weeks of this map with mata and 1 other guy trying to hold a town between the 2 of them against alot more....not sure what your point is here but i doubt welcome back soldiers will save lowpop

Thats on Feb 24 - 4 days after camp start - Herb was allied for another 6 days after that and the line static - counting 8 allies in chat - one blowing FBs away from AO, 2 EA circling etc - Herb has 3 CPs and k300 gets killed by the same 4 EI trickling in over 13mins to get into one of the 3 CPs - that's not a TZ3 roll, thats normal TZ3 play and it went the other way in the same fashion w 3 Axis defending a town and 8 ei attacking during that time - there's nothing out of the ordinary in that yt video really other than the fact that both Herb flags are somewhat drained and of course wittmanns acidic comment does not help at all...unless after grobb / oost fell (honest victories according to lob who was there mind you) he indoctrinated w the same defeatist comments all over and allies actually did log off

Edited March 14, 2015 by gsc

[sydspain]

wjutgH44T_A

Early in the map

k300, matamor, nizze221, stony, zivac, wittman, blggles

vs.

erasmo, syd250, slipk250, huka1, monashy, 1 guy with 232, and maybe 1 or 2 more guys attacking from north

You guys had 7 or 8 people conected, the problem is that 2 of them were flying and 2 were crying on chat. Herbeumont could have been a great fight 8 vs 8, instead of that it was a 8 vs 3

[Jsilec]

Great fights?....normal gameplay?....i feel sorry for lowpop if that video as an indication of an avergae fights in that tz....that video was during wbs promo btw

[coila]

.sometimes it takes players switching things up for the better of the game

!S Respect Js.

[gsc]

Great fights?....normal gameplay?....i feel sorry for lowpop if that video as an indication of an avergae fights in that tz....that video was during wbs promo btw

Normal gameplay for TZ3 - yes but that is not being discussed here nor is that YT video any indication of an Axis TZ3 "gangbanging" - it is in fact just that: NORMAL TZ3 gameplay

The amount of propaganda and the assumptions being derived from said progaganda thus creating histeria is at abnormal levels here - look at that video again then go w the names syd gave you and watch - srysly - you see any rolling or mass piling of axis in CPs going on there? All it takes is for 1 / 2 people to histerically cry "zomfg axis rolls 911 !!!" and it's established as fact we're "rolling" - lot of the people COMMENTING on that with their usual one-liners are not even IN game at those times - they just go w the flow because if so and so said it, its true and btw its easy and also why not, right?

Add the next layer of even more remote players reading the initial "outcry" however distorted it may be + the initial followers and the 3rd layer, ie. above mentioned even more remote players, just follows suit automatically & completely ignorant like lemmings - as a result you have a full blown demoralized & P&Ming "side" being vocal about it in the forum - even IF there was no problem before the initial bogus outcry - it was just that based on stereotypical assumptions, it IS one now and self-inflicted to boot. Snowballing into mass-hysteria and a morale abyss.

Add to that the characteristical, demoralizing in-game P&M* from wittmann and you're good to go - on top of that...

Geez if i'd put up a YT video everytime we get:

"2 DEF in xxx, need more"

....3 mins later...

" Still only 2 DEF in xxx, full EWS!!"

...3mins later...

"SPAWN BEING CAPPED, NEED MORE, only 3 HERE!!! EI in AB !!! 911 xxx"

...and then gave as reply

"We got 4 in yyy, they coming, all we got"

you'd get the impression allies are rolling hard as well w OP and all

*pi$$ing and moaning

Edited March 14, 2015 by gsc

[Jsilec]

Ok matamor of all people is the allied propaganda chief lol....its evident there are serious issues or we probably wouldnt even be having this discussion so please carry on with your bs gsc....all is well its just that allies lost grob and oost and then they quit....its all a great myth or a lie that we are perpeuating to win some dumb campaign....

[gsc]

Ok matamor of all people is the allied propaganda chief lol....its evident there are serious issues or we probably wouldnt even be having this discussion so please carry on with your bs gsc....all is well its just that allies lost grob and oost and then they quit....its all a great myth or a lie that we are perpeuating to win some dumb campaign....

Facts speak for themselves - that video shows nothing abnormal - that aside, unless you're playing TZ3, how come you even dare to comment on it anyway. Now be a good lemming and in accord w the others pressure CRS more into applying some sanction or other so you can come home, plant yourself in your E-Z Chair after stuffing your face and be content that the in-game world was in stasis unlike the real world out there (is frightening is it huh..not being able to stop and adjust everything to your liking & schedule?)

The issue is: allies logging and quitting <-- there, serious issue because THAT is taking down the game - discuss that!

ps. cant be that dumb or we wouldnt be having all the hysteria in the first place, or what...

[Jsilec]

Facts speak for themselves - that video shows nothing abnormal - that aside, unless you're playing TZ3, how come you even dare to comment on it anyway. Now be a good lemming and in accord w the others pressure CRS more into applying some sanction or other so you can come home, plant yourself in your E-Z Chair after stuffing your face and be content that the in-game world was in stasis unlike the real world out there (is frightening is it huh..not being able to stop and adjust everything to your liking & schedule?)

The issue is: allies logging and quitting <-- there, serious issue because THAT is taking down the game - discuss that!

ps. cant be that dumb or we wouldnt be having all the hysteria in the first place, or what...

Allies won 6 maps in a row and squads swapped over.....if we cared so much about winning then why would anyone entertain that thought?....seeing the map get trashed in lowpop hurts BOTH sides you knucklehead...i see plenty of other axis posting about lowpop bs as allies so save the lectures because they are not worth the time i lose reading them....half the guys doing it are former "allied" players lol