FB Bug or?

[Mosizlak]

I was doing a .own of our FBs and saw the Abbeville-LeCrotay FB infantry spawn at 44%.  Spawned in, heard footsteps, so I ran out of the infantry spawn only to see the EI on top of the infantry spawn main tent placing a charge.  

Now the infantry spawn was not in it's damaged state and was not clipped into the surrounding ground as to enable infantry to enter it from the outside, to say nothing of the fact that he managed to get on top of the infantry spawn somehow.  

New bug? Clipper? 

[delems]

** New bug

Possible, unlikely.

 

*** Clipper?

Possibly.

 

Without saying to much, I will say there absolutely are ways to get into the INF tents legally, deformed terrain around them (berms) is one way, there are other ways.

 

[B2K]

that would need to be .reported in game so that young rapskallion could get booted.... 

[haupt]

You can get into an INF tent without a berm. It is gamey and against the rules.

 

The on top of the tent is easy.  start on the inside of the spawn, walk up the exit ramp, then turn walk on the barrels or boxes to the edge of the tent. Then right up. To get between tents, sprint to the next one.

[Hardlead]

How is that more gamey that people changing the equipment with the config files?

[delems]

*** You can get into an INF tent without a berm. It is gamey and against the rules.

If you are referring to clipping, yes, agree.  There are other ways into the tents w/o clipping however.  Not gamey and not against the rules.

 

[Scking]

I believe you can not fire your weapon if you clip into the tent area but I haven’t tested it in a while and not sure if that effects placing satchels or not

[Mosizlak]

On 2/16/2018 at 10:54 PM, B2K said:

that would need to be .reported in game so that young rapskallion could get booted.... 

Oh I did, and it was very detailed and contained his game handle. 

[Mosizlak]

On 2/17/2018 at 10:11 AM, SCKING said:

I believe you can not fire your weapon if you clip into the tent area but I haven’t tested it in a while and not sure if that effects placing satchels or not

This is true, but he set a charge on the roof right where his corpse was and it went off.  The game probably does not consider the roof "inside" the spawn. 

[stankyus]

1 hour ago, Mosizlak said:

This is true, but he set a charge on the roof right where his corpse was and it went off.  The game probably does not consider the roof "inside" the spawn. 

I used to see ppl doing this, they clip through and sap the inf. It was my understanding that if you entered the area prior to it being partially blown you could not place the charge.  That does need to be looked at, I thought that was squashed.

[delems]

You all seem to be missing the point.

Of course, everyone agrees if that engr clipped, then it is wrong.

However, there are very legal ways to get into the INF spawn at FBs - and there is nothing wrong with that.

How come you presuppose that engineer clipped?

 

[B2K]

2 hours ago, delems said:

However, there are very legal ways to get into the INF spawn at FBs - and there is nothing wrong with that.

for FB's that are not on the side you are -- no  - there are not, at least not ones that won't get you a TOS warning or a .kick if caught..... 

[Mosizlak]

2 hours ago, delems said:

You all seem to be missing the point.

Of course, everyone agrees if that engr clipped, then it is wrong.

However, there are very legal ways to get into the INF spawn at FBs - and there is nothing wrong with that.

How come you presuppose that engineer clipped?

 

Because it was in it's undamaged state. And there was no berm allowing entry into the spawn. 

The only other way into the spawn is to clip yourself in, or place sandbags. Either way, the RATS made the inside of an undamaged infantry spawn a no fire zone for the enemy. It seems that if you get in you are violating a rule. 

[Merlin51]

4 hours ago, delems said:

You all seem to be missing the point.

Of course, everyone agrees if that engr clipped, then it is wrong.

However, there are very legal ways to get into the INF spawn at FBs - and there is nothing wrong with that.

How come you presuppose that engineer clipped?

 

Except for a baddly set up FB, there is no legit way for a non paratroop to get on top of a non damaged FB infantry spawn
and that guy isnt dressed as a paratroop, so he didnt get there legit.
All static infantry spawns are set as no fire areas for a reason

Once the inf is blown, yea you can walk in, that is acceptable, penalty for allowing it to get blown i guess you could say
but that FB is intact.

One way to kill this off is make the building consider the space 3 inches above it considered "inside"
Then all you get for worming your way in is stabbed to death

[OLDZEKE]

Once inside the inf spawn you can walk up the bermed part onto the boxes or barrels and onto the tent.

But to get inside of a undamaged spawn that isn't in a berm you have to clip into it which when caught doing it gets you a vacation.

[delems]

*** But to get inside of a undamaged spawn that isn't in a berm you have to clip into it which when caught doing it gets you a vacation.

You don't have to clip, I don't.

There are other ways to get into the INF tents.  What's wrong with sandbags or other PPOs?

 

*** The only other way into the spawn is to clip yourself in, or place sandbags.

Not true, there are other ways than just clipping or placing sandbags.

 

*** Except for a baddly set up FB, there is no legit way for a non paratroop to get on top of a non damaged FB infantry spawn

False.

 

Edited February 23, 2018 by delems

[Mosizlak]

5 minutes ago, delems said:

*** But to get inside of a undamaged spawn that isn't in a berm you have to clip into it which when caught doing it gets you a vacation.

You don't have to clip, I don't.

There are other ways to get into the INF tents.  What's wrong with sandbags or other PPOs?

 

*** The only other way into the spawn is to clip yourself in, or place sandbags.

Not true, there are other ways than just clipping or placing sandbags.

 

*** Except for a baddly set up FB, there is no legit way for a non paratroop to get on top of a non damaged FB infantry spawn

False.

 

 The point is that you are not allowed into an undamaged infantry spawn point at an FB. I don't care if there are other ways than clipping, the RATS have clearly stated that you are not to be in there when it's undamaged, they even went so far as to make your weapons not work while in there in that state. 

Dunno why you are arguing this point lol 

[delems]

***  The point is that you are not allowed into an undamaged infantry spawn point at an FB. 

Hmm, well I interpret it as you are not allowed obvious/easy entry into the FB INF tents.

A clever puzzle, just like some of the clever shooting spots one can find by rubbling some bldgs and using maneuver to get where one might never go.

 

*** Dunno why you are arguing this point lol 
Because maybe there are some people that do know how to get on top of FB INF spawn tents legally - and don't want to be grouped with those that do clip.

 

As an aside, I personally only do this on cold FBs where the enemy can't even spawn anyways. (empty towns, navy, etc.)

Never done it on a AO/DO FB or even FB that can be spawned into by the enemy.

 

[Mosizlak]

2 minutes ago, delems said:

***  The point is that you are not allowed into an undamaged infantry spawn point at an FB. 

Hmm, well I interpret it as you are not allowed obvious/easy entry into the FB INF tents.

A clever puzzle, just like some of the clever shooting spots one can find by rubbling some bldgs and using maneuver to get where one might never go.

 

*** Dunno why you are arguing this point lol 
Because maybe there are some people that do know how to get on top of FB INF spawn tents legally - and don't want to be grouped with those that do clip.

 

As an aside, I personally only do this on cold FBs where the enemy can't even spawn anyways. (empty towns, navy, etc.)

Never done it on a AO/DO FB or even FB that can be spawned into by the enemy.

 

It's not allowed, period.  Just scroll up and see what the RAT said. 

I'll report any player, axis or allied, that I find doing it. 

[jwilly]

7 minutes ago, Mosizlak said:

the RATS have clearly stated that you are not to be in there when it's undamaged

If that's what the Rats meant and that's a uniform official policy, but there are players with a different understanding, obviously the Rats haven't communicated effectively enough.

[delems]

*** the RATS have clearly stated that you are not to be in there when it's undamaged

Then they better fix all the bermed FBs, as one can get in and it is not damaged.......?

 

[xcas]

i have to agree with delems, THERE is more ways to get into a enemy fb inf spawns, THEN just clipping threw the boxes and sandbags, so if this is the case, CRS  SHOULD make it so the charges can only be placed on the OUTSIDE of the spawns of the  inf spawn whether it  is intack or not. And fixed the inf spawns that are clipped into berms.

[B2K]

6 minutes ago, xcas said:

i have to agree with delems, THERE is more ways to get into a enemy fb inf spawns, THEN just clipping threw the boxes and sandbags, so if this is the case, CRS  SHOULD make it so the charges can only be placed on the OUTSIDE of the spawns of the  inf spawn whether it  is intack or not. And fixed the inf spawns that are clipped into berms.

aside from landing inside as a paratrooper (will get warned if you get caught doing this by the way - so don't), there is NO legit way to get inside an unblown inf spawn.  

FB's with terrain issues are getting fixed - if you find any .bug them (even if you have a million times before - better safe than sorry)

[B2K]

50 minutes ago, jwilly said:

If that's what the Rats meant and that's a uniform official policy, but there are players with a different understanding, obviously the Rats haven't communicated effectively enough.

it's been communicated effectively - some folks just like to watch the world burn.  

[OLDZEKE]

If you are aware it's against the rules, then don't do it. That's pretty simple.