Hits not registering on aircraft.

[mushinga]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVKrowt7jro

 

I don't know if this is all planes. I will be going allied map 153 and getting footage to see. But somethings not right. I tried to share this on discord but i believe chimm deleted it for what ever reason and kicked me from allied discord with no reason why. That is really unprofessional but besides the point.. here is the video.  

 

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Edited February 19, 2018 by mushinga

[OLDZEKE]

Have you ever been in a ab bunker and the aagun player in that ab kept hitting the bunker and shaking your screen?

He likely was not hitting the bunker on his screen but 3rd person only approximates the tracking of rounds. So unless you are the only aagun shooting

you may be seeing others shots that are only approximated and not actually hitting according to either client actually involved (shooting and plane being shot).

The only "fix" for this would be STO rounds where your client has to accurately every rounds fired by every client in that area.

[mushinga]

The aircraft in the video are clearly being shot by me.. I shot the hawk at almost point blank 3 or 4 times. I know what your saying but that theory is not the case because you can see my tracers and im the only one most of the clips. I don't know man seems broke to me.

Edited February 19, 2018 by mushinga

[Merlin51]

can you kind of pinpoint what times you are talking about?
DB7 you miss a lot of times with the 20mm (Dont feel bad i miss at least 10 times more)
Someone else does hit him, phantom poofs appearing 

at 2:21 you missed the hurri with a few rounds, but did hit him with that last one
and stuff started coming out of him, he didnt appear to be flying well afterwards

at 2:51 you got 1 20mm hit on the hawk, but a bunch of misses.

3:27 you hit the hawk with 3 or 4 good ones, he was smoking. And one round at 4:03 and one at 4:20 and looks like maybe one at 4:30, then he started leaking white and brown and i think he became one with the ground after that.
Smart though, he went into the sun messing up you aiming on his one return pass, not smart enough as he didnt continue to use it.

But what i see from your rounds, is just a lot of misses?
Not near as many as i do as i have trouble trying to figure out the lead on a plane in lateral motion, but still misses.

Have someone like mozislak look at the video, he is the AA gunner expert and probably a much better person to evaluate it
 

[OLDZEKE]

17 minutes ago, mushinga said:

The aircraft in the video are clearly being shot by me.. I shot the hawk at almost point blank 3 or 4 times. I know what your saying but that theory is not the case because you can see my tracers and im the only one most of the clips. I don't know man seems broke to me.

There can be times when, in fact, you are hitting the other player to no apparent effect. That is one of the main reasons the auto despawn was added for connections that weren't keeping up packet wise.

It can be either end and has to get pretty extreme before if despawns a player. 

It could be server side if something has got out of sync and needs restarted.

Anytime anything like this can be reliably replicated so that dev can see it in action it does get addressed.

 

[mushinga]

The Hurricane at 2:07 should have exploded. The hawk at 3:21 should have been dead.  But either way it really needs to be looked into.. Something is wrong and needs to be checked here. I don't know if its HE or if its aircraft itself. But it needs to be checked by CRS and not allied players defending the equipment they use. 

Edited February 19, 2018 by mushinga

[OLDZEKE]

3 minutes ago, mushinga said:

The Hurricane at 2:07 should have exploded. The hawk at 3:21 should have been dead.  But either way it really needs to be looked into.. Something is wrong and needs to be checked here. I don't know if its HE or if its aircraft itself. But it needs to be checked by CRS and not 2 allied players defending the equipment they use. 

Book mark this post as I can assure you that while I currently play allied I have close to the same amount of kills as axis during my nearly 17 years playing this game.

I also look at bugs and issues as game play issues not as allied or axis so I'd appreciate it if you leave the bias stuff out because it generally kills any productive discussion.

[OLDZEKE]

As to CRS reply vrs "allied players" responses.

https://www.wwiionline.com/about-the-game-team#the-team

[mushinga]

9 minutes ago, OldZeke said:

Book mark this post as I can assure you that while I currently play allied I have close to the same amount of kills as axis during my nearly 17 years playing this game.

I also look at bugs and issues as game play issues not as allied or axis so I'd appreciate it if you leave the bias stuff out because it generally kills any productive discussion.

Iv been playing the game off and on just as long as you man.. And came axis on this account for my first time 5 maps ago. But your not CRS as a Dev your QA and your in an allied air squad you get my point.

Edited February 19, 2018 by mushinga

[OLDZEKE]

You might be mistaken on a few finer points.

 

[mushinga]

6 minutes ago, OldZeke said:

You might be mistaken on a few finer points.

 

Sorry you play mostly with an allied squad.. my mistake. But its not the point.. All aa guns need to be looked at and all aircraft need to be looked at.

Edited February 19, 2018 by mushinga

[Merlin51]

11 minutes ago, mushinga said:

The Hurricane at 2:07 should have exploded.

I dont disagree with that, i feel the same way when i actually hit something with a bofors and it doesnt instasplode
i'm like awe come on, its 40mm.
Could be a hurri or hawk or ju87 or even a truck, the outcome of a hit seems like it should be a wee bit more catasrophic
but there is already a multi faceted ammo audit that might have an effect on that.

The hawk at 3:21 i'm not really qualified to say
the hawk was a slow but tough little bird and the 20mm HE wasnt exactly the most effective AA ordnance
so maybe, maybe not, i cant say.

[OLDZEKE]

So, because I don't have caps I'm side biased and not CRS?

[mushinga]

3 minutes ago, OldZeke said:

So, because I don't have caps I'm side biased and not CRS?

Like i said. Your not a Dev. Code needs to be looked at. And now I am ending my discussion with you because now your off topic.

Edited February 19, 2018 by mushinga

[OLDZEKE]

3 minutes ago, mushinga said:

Sorry you play mostly with an allied squad.. my mistake. But its not the point.. All aa guns need to be looked at and all aircraft need to be looked at.

Everything ingame needs looked at but it all requires the time of specific people. As is the HE/KE audit is front burner as anything otherwise done would simply need redone after.

 

[mushinga]

13 minutes ago, merlin51 said:

I dont disagree with that, i feel the same way when i actually hit something with a bofors and it doesnt instasplode
i'm like awe come on, its 40mm.
Could be a hurri or hawk or ju87 or even a truck, the outcome of a hit seems like it should be a wee bit more catasrophic
but there is already a multi faceted ammo audit that might have an effect on that.

The hawk at 3:21 i'm not really qualified to say
the hawk was a slow but tough little bird and the 20mm HE wasnt exactly the most effective AA ordnance
so maybe, maybe not, i cant say.

I would almost for sure say its HE issue. I'm noticing a LMG  has a better chance at killing aircraft. Lets hope the audit happens sooner then later. Its frustrating for all of us. Thanks Guys. 

Edited February 19, 2018 by mushinga

[PITTPETE]

52 minutes ago, mushinga said:

Sorry you play mostly with an allied squad.. my mistake. But its not the point.. All aa guns need to be looked at and all aircraft need to be looked at.

 

Flak 30 is crap, don't even bother.

You did get some hits and the aircraft was damaged and leaking fuel.

Just because you didnt get an instant explosion, doesn't mean you didnt kill the player..He could've been hit or plinked by another player and they registered the kill.

Why do people insist on running to the forums to complain for everything?

 

[bmw]

1 hour ago, mushinga said:

Like i said. Your not a Dev. Code needs to be looked at. And now I am ending my discussion with you because now your off topic.

WOW. Seriously.....Oldzeke is one of the most objective guys out there........you do understand the word "objective" right?   

[OLDZEKE]

4 minutes ago, bmw said:

WOW. Seriously.....Oldzeke is one of the most objective guys out there........you do understand the word "objective" right?   

Thanks BMW but honestly I let the side bias remarks draw me off which was my bad.

I need to back off these forums and just focus on what needs done.

[PITTPETE]

Yes the forums have been filled with whining lately...

It's like everything CRS does is wrong, not enough or too late...LOL

[haupt]

6 hours ago, mushinga said:

The Hurricane at 2:07 should have exploded. The hawk at 3:21 should have been dead.  But either way it really needs to be looked into.. Something is wrong and needs to be checked here. I don't know if its HE or if its aircraft itself. But it needs to be checked by CRS and not allied players defending the equipment they use. 

Zeke is quite objective. He has more time Axis than many of the axis hardcore. The first 5 years of the game he was axis, and he goes axis for a couple months at a time since.

[pbveteran]

7 hours ago, OLDZEKE said:

Have you ever been in a ab bunker and the aagun player in that ab kept hitting the bunker and shaking your screen?

He likely was not hitting the bunker on his screen but 3rd person only approximates the tracking of rounds. So unless you are the only aagun shooting

you may be seeing others shots that are only approximated and not actually hitting according to either client actually involved (shooting and plane being shot).

The only "fix" for this would be STO rounds where your client has to accurately every rounds fired by every client in that area.

If you see the video what you are saying does not apply.

Every pop of smoke you see from your bullets on screen should represent a hit on that aircraft same goes for infantry that's because WW2ol Server doesn't actively track every hit or checks if the unit is indeed there, it gives you the data from that unit to be put in your client and only updates it on your client.

The server basically believes you won't tamper with the data he sends you, that why you can delay sending/receiving your packets making kills when you should be death by other players.

[B2K]

7 hours ago, mushinga said:

Sorry you play mostly with an allied squad.. my mistake. But its not the point.. All aa guns need to be looked at and all aircraft need to be looked at.

*snicker* but he has almost twice as many Axis sorties compared to Allied sorties (and was for a few campaigns (in a row) the Axis top bomber AND Top Fighter)... don't let current choice of sides cloud your vision of someones statements.