Weapons?

[delems]

Brits have semi autos?   French have semi autos?

The grease gun is in 1941 when it wasn't even invented until 1943?

Brits never used the Garaand.

Edited December 16, 2018 by delems

[Blkhwk8]

Well this has been stated several times.we are testing supply based on a budget cost method. You will also notice that no Stewart's were introduce nor the sux pounder or the m1 atg. 

[flong139]

brits dont have the M1

 

[Merlin51]

3 hours ago, delems said:

Brits never used the Garaand.

Actually they did.
Might want to check out history of 3rd 5th and 7th C

They did not walk into france with them, because their re-entry to france was in normandy on D-Day, and they had re-equipped for that.
but they used them before that, a little ways east.

 

3 hours ago, delems said:

The grease gun is in 1941 when it wasn't even invented until 1943?

Its moving, it walks slow.
In serious though, it's not possible to put it in its right place just yet due to how RDP ends.
It's place technically doesn't exist, have patience, it will.

2 hours ago, BLKHWK8 said:

the sux pounder

Awe man  
LoL

3 hours ago, delems said:

Brits have semi autos?

Yea, the old thompsons they got from the US early on.
They never get the M1 though, they went on to design their own, the sten

[stankyus]

French got the Mas40 - No grease gun, No Stu, no 57mm

Brits got the Sten and I think Cru2, No 6pdr.

Axis got the Pak38 and PzH... regular RDP schedule.

[jwilly]

Under the budget cost method, will the British be eligible to bring in the towed six pounder and six pounder cruiser tanks for T1? The factories to produce them were ready to be converted in late Fall of 1940, and the contracts were issued.

Historically, if Dunkirk had not wiped out the two pounder inventory, towed six pounders and the first six pounder cruiser tanks would have been fielded in late 1940. That of course would require half-year tiers, which we don't have yet.

The old-CRS rule was that if a weapon had been contracted for, it was eligible for eventual game introduction as of that tier once it was modeled. Is that still the rule?

Edited December 18, 2018 by jwilly

[Capco]

6 minutes ago, jwilly said:

Under the budget cost method, will the British be eligible to bring in the towed six pounder and six pounder cruiser tanks for T1? The factories to produce them were ready to be converted in late Fall of 1940, and the contracts were issued.

Historically, if Dunkirk had not wiped out the two pounder inventory, towed six pounders and the first six pounder cruiser tanks would have been fielded in late 1940. That of course would require half-year tiers, which we don't have yet.

The old-CRS rule was that if a weapon had been contracted for, it was eligible for eventual game introduction as of that tier once it was modeled. Is that still the rule?

Excellent question that needs clarification.  

[BMBM]

We are, afaik, sticking to historical intro dates - and in the main leaning on actual production figures to get ratios somewhat in order. Some exceptions will likely be tolerated, like the PzJ I (202 produced) and others like it. "Iconic", "produced in great quantity" and "filling out gaps" are keywords for future vehicle modeling in the short term.

[jwilly]

8 hours ago, Bmbm said:

We are, afaik, sticking to historical intro dates

What about the German HEAT RG? Historical intro date = 20 May 1941 during the Crete invasion.

The RGs themselves were manufactured in March and April, but the first batch of rifle adapters was not completed until 18 May. They were driven overnight to the airfield where the paratroops were loading. So, it seems that they couldn't be T0...unlike the British RG which was readily available to front line British troops in May 1940, and the French RG of which 150,000 were manufactured and delivered by Brandt in early 1940.

[BMBM]

It would be no exception. By sticking to historical dates we retain the WW2 flavor, e.g. ”Spit Summer”, that would not be the case for a tit-for-tat red/blue philosophy.

[jwilly]

What about historical deployment?

It's noted in various histories that the British mostly kept Spitfire units based in England, and deployed mostly Hurricane units to France. So, while Spits were in combat use, they still mostly weren't available over BEF.

Actually, there were many instances of that sort of locational limited availability, due to game events diverging from history.

[Merlin51]

1 hour ago, jwilly said:

It's noted in various histories that the British mostly kept Spitfire units based in England, and deployed mostly Hurricane units to France.

Historical deployments kind of begin to fall apart though after tier 0 because generally we don't follow history.

I'd have no problem with the spits beginning based only in England at the beginning, with the players choosing to put them in france
But they way they were originally locked to England was a terrain hack.
They could never be moved elsewhere.

[BMBM]

1 hour ago, jwilly said:

What about historical deployment?

It's noted in various histories that the British mostly kept Spitfire units based in England, and deployed mostly Hurricane units to France. So, while Spits were in combat use, they still mostly weren't available over BEF.

Actually, there were many instances of that sort of locational limited availability, due to game events diverging from history.

Then we’d have to argue about N Africa, Italy and Russia too. 

[jwilly]

I wasn't trying to engage in an argument. Instead I'm just asking what the rules will be. That is, how CRS management will manage your game.

It's useful to know in advance what the rules are. Among other things, it diminishes the number of instances where some members of a contentious community built around competition might otherwise tend to think that the rules are being adjusted or created on the fly, to the other side's advantage.

[BMBM]

We haven’t discussed historical deployment if that’s what you’re asking. I’m just saying that were we to go that course it’d come with a slew of consequences, most which would probably be detrimental to gameplay as we know it.