How many times do I have to die because my weapon won't fire?

[hillstorm]

Seriously, this is happening over and over again. This most recent time, I was LMG, but I switched to pistol because I knew I would need to fire on the run. NOPE, like an idiot I tried to shoot at EI right in front of me, several times, gun doesn't shoot. At a certain point I'm just standing still and it won't fire. EI kills me. 

I would just chalk this up as a bad luck glitch if it didn't happen several times since 1.36. It's happened to me with smgs, and with rifle (I think), and LMG pistol. Possibly sapper pistol as well. Every time it happens, I lose the drop, and I die. Usually the EI hasn't even seen me, until I'm standing there like an idiot with a jammed gun. 

Yes,, I did a .report on it. (I believe I have done so previously, too). Yes, I'm frustrated. 

Thanks.

Edited July 11, 2019 by hillstorm

[bugeater]

The engineer seems to be the most glitchy for me. It'll get hung up on a previous weapon, so maybe you had repair kits out but switched to rifle, but when you go to fire the rifle you think is equipped it switches back to repair kit. Or I frequently have it happen when you go to shoulder the rifle after switching from HE/repair and it fires (on right click only). Then it gets stuck and doesn't cycle the bolt until you click fire (but doesn't fire) and everything sorts out at that point. I've had this latter occur where it placed a satchel while riding in the bed of an opel after blowing an fb, killing me. Lol the driver was very "wtf?"...

[hillstorm]

7 hours ago, bugeater said:

The engineer seems to be the most glitchy for me. It'll get hung up on a previous weapon, so maybe you had repair kits out but switched to rifle, but when you go to fire the rifle you think is equipped it switches back to repair kit. Or I frequently have it happen when you go to shoulder the rifle after switching from HE/repair and it fires (on right click only). Then it gets stuck and doesn't cycle the bolt until you click fire (but doesn't fire) and everything sorts out at that point. I've had this latter occur where it placed a satchel while riding in the bed of an opel after blowing an fb, killing me. Lol the driver was very "wtf?"...

That sounds extremely frustrating! I haven't experienced that same problem with engie (at least that I've noticed ... but I'm usually using the mouse scroll wheel to cycle through weapons and I often get stuck on the wrong one.. I usually assume it's my own fault, lol). 

Hope your issue gets fixed. 

[shagher]

Happened to me several times, Engineer mostly.... Yep... Faced EI.... Looked at each other and just like that... Couldn't press the trigger... Must have been arthritis… 

[Randazzo]

The few times I've had this happen to me, I was in the midst of a position change.

Aimed at CP door, started to crouch, EI ran in before I was set and I could not pull the trigger while taking a knee.

[OLDZEKE]

Just now, Randazzo said:

The few times I've had this happen to me, I was in the midst of a position change.

Aimed at CP door, started to crouch, EI ran in before I was set and I could not pull the trigger while taking a knee.

That gives us something to check. We need a reliable reproduction method and so far this seems only to affect a few (and so far none of us testers). 

[MWHITMAN]

As Zeke says, it's figuring out a repeatable sequence to cause this, then we can get it passed up to get sorted by the coders.

Been playing since 2002 and never had the issue. Tried lots of stuff but so far I can't recreate it.

Closest thing so far as others have noted is that sometimes when you change between weapons, or grenades etc, although it shows the item you selected its still on the old one. So if you were an engineer, had the repair kit selected, scrolled to your rifle, then press fire, nothing happens as the game thinks your trying to place a repair kit, not shoot the gun.

[Randazzo]

18 hours ago, OLDZEKE said:

That gives us something to check. We need a reliable reproduction method and so far this seems only to affect a few (and so far none of us testers). 

I just assumed it was intentional. I tested it myself right after, and firing was only interrupted for a brief moment while the first person animation of crouching is taking place. Less than a second.

I only noticed because of the timing of the ei showing up versus when I crouched.

This was the sten, btw. Didn't try with anything else.

Edited August 21, 2019 by Randazzo

[matamor]

I misread 'how many time i have to buy a new keyboard cause mata killed me'. 

[hillstorm]

I saw mention somewhere else of the same problem that I'm having. Can't remember the thread, but I think the comment might have been posted by pfmosquito. Anyway glad it's getting some attention. The bug (or whatever it is) hasn't really reared its head for me lately, but I'm sure it will be back. In the future I'll just keep reporting it whenever it happens. 

8 hours ago, matamor said:

I misread 'how many time i have to buy a new keyboard cause mata killed me'. 

mata .. who? 

[bugeater]

On 8/20/2019 at 3:14 PM, OLDZEKE said:

That gives us something to check. We need a reliable reproduction method and so far this seems only to affect a few (and so far none of us testers). 

FWIW I do most of my weapon changes using the default number mappings. It tends to occur with the engi when switching from either HE or Repair Kits to the rifle very quickly after placing, independent of position changes as someone has noted above. To replicate, switch to the rifle immediately after placing but before your troop has fully pulled up the next kit/charge. I get this on at least 50% of engi missions...

[Nick]

4 hours ago, bugeater said:

FWIW I do most of my weapon changes using the default number mappings. It tends to occur with the engi when switching from either HE or Repair Kits to the rifle very quickly after placing, independent of position changes as someone has noted above. To replicate, switch to the rifle immediately after placing but before your troop has fully pulled up the next kit/charge. I get this on at least 50% of engi missions...

Good information, thank you.

[pulfer]

I found out years ago that my mouse DPI was too low and caused SMGs to jam (in all games).

[mcafeed]

I've had this happen to me as well.  It is rare, but I bet it's happened a half dozen times or so over the past few months.  I don't know what causes it but if I lay down the issue self corrects (only corrects if I lay down).

[hillstorm]

13 minutes ago, mcafeed said:

I've had this happen to me as well.  It is rare, but I bet it's happened a half dozen times or so over the past few months.  I don't know what causes it but if I lay down the issue self corrects (only corrects if I lay down).

Good to know. 

[catfive]

Before you head in try to change your item held in hands, if it does not change you've got the bug and must press fire once to clear it then switch to weapon, been around for years and yes especially when fast changing between items held in hands.

[hillstorm]

This happen to me again today (the OP). Was lmg, switched to pistol. At some point (not immediately after switching weapons) I saw ei. I was standing still, carefully aimed, and tried to fire. Tried a full three or four times. Nothing happened. Ran around the corner, saw ei again, dropped to prone and switch to lmg. No problems firing that time and killed him. Got very,  very lucky in that sortie. 

[snappled]

...same thing ... not new.

<S>

[hillstorm]

23 minutes ago, snappled said:

...same thing ... not new.

<S>

Thanks. I knew I saw that somewhere but couldn’t remember what thread it was in. 

[hillstorm]

This happened again just now. While I was smg. Pissed me off enough to make me log. Hope the allied ei enjoyed the free kill. It happened several times last night. Ruins a good run. As far as realism goes, it basically feels the same as your gun jamming - but nobody wants that sort of "realism" when it applies to some players - frequently, it seems - and not to others.  

Losing patience with this. 

[Scking]

Wish someone would get some video of it or something.. I have never experienced it and not sure how to try and replicate it. 

[TR6AL]

I've had it happen to me also . Just as you press fire button , you get heavy lag .

Seems to be only one time and then after that it works as it should . 

With me it was LMG

Edited September 7, 2019 by tr6al

[drkmouse]

had happen tpo me  again but with a twist, would ont let me place a shathcel charge til i  wetn back ot   gun tehn back ot satchel. ( brough up sathycel i i was  going fmor  crouch to standing)

[hillstorm]

On 9/7/2019 at 1:59 PM, SCKING said:

Wish someone would get some video of it or something.. I have never experienced it and not sure how to try and replicate it. 

Unfortunately I’m not set up for that. I can tell you what you would see from my last experience with this bug:

1. Me running with smg 40

2. I see ei run in front of me, not facing me, so I stop. 

3. Raise gun to aim. Try firing several times. Nothing. No sound or message or anything, just nothing happens. 

4. Drop gun, move a few steps, stop and raise gun again - try firing more shots, still nothing.

5. I think I went prone at this point and tried to crawl to where I could aim at ei again, this time he was in position in a building and he killed me. I can’t remember if at that point I got a shot off or not. I know from past experience the bug is not permanent, I think certain moves (changing weapons, going prone) fixes it. But I don’t know what the exact recipe is because in the few occasions where I haven’t been killed by that time, I’m panicking and just doing ... whatever, to change something.

It doesn’t seem like lag because everything else appears normal throughout the whole time. The only thing affected seems to be the ability to shoot. 

I realize a video might provide FPS info etc. maybe someone is set up to do that. But it’s a very random occurrence so there’s no predicting when it will happen. 

(FWIW, saying it’s “random” is not the same as saying it’s “rare.” It’s happened enough times to me that I consider it having more than just a trivial impact on my game experience)

 

Edited September 9, 2019 by hillstorm

[pfmosquito]

What I hate the MOST is when I go to pull the trigger, nothing happens, and the EI kills me, and then on the AAR I see that my killer was hillstorm.

Total rage quit, right there.