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What is the reason for allies getting so many more ATRs in their 1, 2 and 3 AB garrisons?

 

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15 minutes ago, delems said:

What is the reason for allies getting so many more ATRs in their 1, 2 and 3 AB garrisons?

 

Just to make you post about it.

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1 hour ago, delems said:

What is the reason for allies getting so many more ATRs in their 1, 2 and 3 AB garrisons?

 

you will not be happy until everything is RED vs BLUE        (facepalm)

 

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*** you will not be happy until everything is RED vs BLUE        (facepalm)

I'd simply like an explanation why every unit in allied spawn lists gets more than axis spawn list.

And not only more, some are 50 to75% more.   Way off from any 10% variance.

Every unit..... the only exception I found was basic rifle (not semi), and mortars and engrs.

If 5 axis units had more and 5 allied units had more, I'd say it's ok.

But it isn't that way, shall I enumerate?  Every unit in allies spawn lists (nearly) gets more than axis, how come?
 

So yes, I won't be happy, when I look at lists, and see every unit type that allies have, is more supply than axis.

What unit does axis get more of?  And no, I don't feel 2 more mortars makes it even.

 

Light ATGs, 23 to 8 ???  Please explain it.

ATRs, 16 to 9 ??? Please explain it.

 

I believe there are spawn list errors when numbers are off this far.

If they are not, please explain them.

 

PS and to date, brit TOE flags still have 22% more SMGs.

 

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3 hours ago, OHM said:

you will not be happy until everything is RED vs BLUE        (facepalm)

 

Maybe that is the way it should be then?

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42 minutes ago, raipe said:

Maybe that is the way it should be then?

It should not, just the nature of the equipment choices to model means that you cannot have 1:1 ratios and that would be boring anyway.

 

What should be possible is all country garrisons and brigades be able to execute common game functions with even chances of success given similar org/player capability.

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According to Choads TOEs.

garrison Brits vs german ATR are what 16 vs 9...However You fail to mention the extra grenadiers you have. 15 vs 5, or the semiautos ,  or the SPAA 

 

The Inf Flag, brits have 10 smg and 9 atr more , to offset that germans have 13 grenadiers and 6 semi autos extra. 

@delems your wild shouts of bias or mistakes are a cancer. I commend you for trying to get your side more grease, but your squeaks are getting plaintive, repetetive and boring.

 

 

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41 minutes ago, goreblimey said:

I commend you for trying to get your side more grease, but your squeaks are getting plaintive, repetetive and boring.

But are they in fact inaccurate?

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9 minutes ago, atgman said:

But are they in fact inaccurate?

Some are in fact accurate, he just loves reporting half truths to sensationalise his claims. 

 

A similar allied line would perhaps go :- where are all our grenadiers, Why do the axis get semi autos when we have non, Why do the axis get 251, where are the armoured troop carriers for the allies, why do we have no SPAA,why cant we have 3.7" AA guns as an equivalent to the 88  blah blah blah. 

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I didn't catch the grenadiers as tier 4 change.

I really don't care that brits get their 5 grenadiers and axis have none, simple fact at that timeframe, but we could get 5 more rifles to match.

SMGs are now even, finally (in garrison only).  Though many maps axis had a 34 to 56 disadvantage.

I don't look at armor much cause I know it has lots of different tiered dates - infantry should basically be all the same imo.

Light ATGs should be the same too imo, must be nice having 23 light ATGs to spawn from FMS, while axis has 8.

 

Not going to matter much anyways, with the loss of KM Infantry i've played less and less every map.

I'll stop posting about all this, just don't care much anymore in game much, thought maybe I could help other ways in 'out' of game ways.

Maybe not physically in game much, but figured I could still contribute mentally.

You know the saying, "lose the heart, lose the mind, lose the body".

Heart and mind gone.

 

And of course I don't look at what allied is missing, I play axis and compare that; trying to help axis side and game in general.

Enjoy the spawn lists, not my worry anymore. S!

 

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How about an allied dive bomber? (SBD in Army paint is the A-24 ;) )?

Or giving the P-38f its (incredibly huge for this game) bomb load (with rockets)?

The whole spawn list thing is always going to have problems, honestly. The RL "balance" was a combination of doctrine, equipment, logistics, and economics, and it wasn't balanced. Everything in the game is always going to be off, since we all know what to do in ways that are unrealistic as well (what exact spot to aim at a given tank to kill it, for example).

 

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